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SU35,
I'm not talking about book titles, I'm talking about everyday conversation, much like we use on Campfire posts.
When people start getting pedantic about caliber and cartridge in conversation, I'm also reminded of people who have to correct everybody who says "antelope," pointing out they're pronghorns. Who cares, as along as the meaning is clear?
“Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.”
John Steinbeck
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SU35,
I'm not talking about book titles, I'm talking about everyday conversation, much like we use on Campfire posts.
When people start getting pedantic about caliber and cartridge in conversation, I'm also reminded of people who have to correct everybody who says "antelope," pointing out they're pronghorns. Who cares, as along as the meaning is clear? Hey, I've shot Canadian geese before. I did it in Idaho. 
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Ok, John, I understand, It's the tier one wal-mart crowd that use the term along with clip for magazine. Here's a new caliber 30-30 for this club. It reflects them and the term caliber just fine. http://www.mossberg.com/products/default.asp?id=31 
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I don't think that I could even say that abomination without throwing up a little bit in my mouth.
Not a real member - just an ordinary guy who appreciates being able to hang around and say something once in awhile.
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SU35,
I'm not talking about book titles, I'm talking about everyday conversation, much like we use on Campfire posts.
When people start getting pedantic about caliber and cartridge in conversation, I'm also reminded of people who have to correct everybody who says "antelope," pointing out they're pronghorns. Who cares, as along as the meaning is clear? Hey, I've shot Canadian geese before. I did it in Idaho. Ah, immigrants...
Safe Shooting! Steve Redgwell www.303british.comGet your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - Mark Twain Member - Professional Outdoor Media Association of Canada ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/AP39Jhm.jpg)
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I used to know a trucker from central Montana who not only talked about Canadian geese but bull herrings.
“Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.”
John Steinbeck
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Boolits? How about heads for the same thing?
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Hmm. I work with words, and have learned some stuff about it over the years.
One of the basics is that all modern languages are living things. They change all the time, the reason dictionaries change--because dictionaries aren't derived from a panel of experts, but by "common usage." If a lot of people say "caliber" for "cartridge," then that's common usage. Someday soon caliber will probably be dictionary-listed as a synonym for cartridge.
By the way, neither my Webster's Unabridged or my compact copy of the Oxford English Dictionary make any differentiation between "revolver" and "pistol," something many shooters get nit-picky about.
In cowboy action circles, the discussion is about "pistols", one hardly ever hears the term, "revolver". The reasoning, handguns were all "pistols" until autoloaders came into being, at which time the distinction between "pistols" and "revolvers" evolved. The time frame of CAS is pre-autoloader, or before the introduction of 1911 Colt. DF
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A leaky limerick.
Western Partition
There once was a man from Montana
Who lived on Hawaiian bananas
He got shot in the gut
So they covered the cut
With bright yellow, Hawaiian bandanas!
Safe Shooting! Steve Redgwell www.303british.comGet your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - Mark Twain Member - Professional Outdoor Media Association of Canada
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I used to know a trucker from central Montana who not only talked about Canadian geese but bull herrings. Sweet! I'd like to see a cow herring.
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cal�i�ber (kl-br)
n.
1. Abbr. cal.
a. The diameter of the inside of a round cylinder, such as a tube.
b. The diameter of the bore of a firearm, usually shown in hundredths or thousandths of an inch and expressed in writing or print in terms of a decimal fraction: .45 caliber.
c. The diameter of a large projectile, such as an artillery shell, measured in millimeters or in inches.
Yes, Fish, You and Wind Drift are correct. However in my 62 yrs I've never heard anyone ask, "What chambering is your rifle chambered for?" OR even "What cartridge is your rifle chambered in/for?" I'm also PRETTY SURE I've never read it in any book or magazine. I'd prabably be more accurate to say, I DON'T REMEMBER reading it anywhere, EVEN HERE. IMHO, "what caliber is your rifle?" has become common usage. When I was in school THRU high school the teachers fussed and said, "Ain't is NOT a word!!!" Well today Ain't is in the dictionary. Caliber certainly designates the diameter of a bore or bullet. We have applied it to the cartridge or chamber of guns. Denotation---Connotation. Jerry
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Yeah, I have more important things to get upset about--or laugh at. The "front shoulder" of a deer or elk, for one.
“Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.”
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M D - I'd say those are more important and more interesting too.
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