Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunting Rifles Thinking about rebarreling my NULA .30-06

With $550-$600 in my pocket and a NULA 30-06 in my hands, I'd be a happy cracker..

Agree on recoil vs. weight. My experience is with a Kimber, but shooting it and a much heavier rifle of the same cartridge demonstrated that light rifles are very lively.

While the recoil of my 06' doesn't bother me, I would be fibbing if I wouldn't welcome less recoil with equal results.

Just for a "numbers comparison", I went to my favorite recoil calculator (they're evil BTW) and plugged in these numbers with H414 powder in both cartridges. Tried to duplicate FACTORY velocity in both.

.270 Win. 130gr. @ 3,059fps. = 18.72ft.lbs. of recoil @ 13.89fps.

.30-06 165gr. @ 2,877fps. = 24.89ft.lbs. of recoil @ 16.02fps.

That's actually more difference than I would have guessed. Since I'm not a particularly recoil sensitive person, I wonder if I would actually notice the difference.

Any input?

BTW...Not selling the NULA. Just like the rifle too much. If you can't tell yet, I'm looking for an "all purpose" rifle that I really enjoy shooting. One that I'll hang onto for life and will go with me on most every hunt.
Melvins price of $550-$600 for a rebarrel is actually pretty cheap. Most places I've checked are asking about $900-$1,000, but that's with Hart or Benchmark barrels.

I would hate to change up a rifle that's shooting 1/4" groups, but I would be really suprised if Melvin barreled me a .270 win. that wouldn't do pretty close to that. This is 100% a HUNTING rifle. I paid the $$$ for a NULA because of the weight, balance, and craftmanship. If it wound up shooting 1/2" or 3/4" groups before I even started tinkering with loads, I would be plenty happy.

Also, just for grins, I thought I would compare the .270 load listed about against a 7mm.-08 (light recoil round) in the same rifle.

.270 Win. 130gr. @ 3059fps = 18.72ft.lbs. of recoil

.7mm-08 140gr. @ 2,810 = 17.14ft.lbs. of recoil

Those 2 are WAY more alike than the .30-06 vs. .270 Win.

I think I'll give myself some more time with the 06' before I make any $600 decisions.

Recoil or "perceived" recoil really is heavily influenced by gun design. My extreme weather 300 wsm seems to kick much more than my 30-06 Montana, even though the EW weighs over a 1 1/2 lbs more and is only shooting the same bullet 175-200fps faster. My 84 classic 7mm08 seems to kick less than the .243 it replaced even with 35 grains more bullet weight. Crazy thing is they all have the same recoil pad and yet the lighter weight guns seem to recoil less to me.

Lets run some numbers, apples to apples, drop the '06 bullet to the same weight bullet as the .270,

Also, since you reload, drop a few grains of powder.

My '06 shoots little bitty groups with a starter load of 56 grains of IMR4350. Velocity is likely around 2650. I don't think dead deer will be insulted by that number. Very shoot-able.

give it time, that gun will grow on you.

I imagine the .300wsm does kick a bit more, thats what another 10 or 12 grains of powder will do,

I think you are thinking to much

schoolcraft,
You are the edge of a very dangerous precipice. If you slip over the edge you will be in rifle loonyism kingdom.
You will will in all likelyhood never recover.

This simple decision could well save you thousands of dollars, hours and hours of mental gymnastics, nitpicking, and consternation.

If you do fall off cliff, just buy a 270 Win. Stick the NULA in the corner of a closet, lock it in a safe you do not personally have the combination to, and go about the kingdom. When you tire of the kingdom, then go back and pull the NULA out, sell everything else and go hunting.

You truly have the all-around rifle, work up two loads. One for in the 130-150gr bullet and one with a 180gr. You should be able to get them to shoot fairly close to same POI. Just write down the any scope adjustments between the two loads and you can switch at will. Or just work up one good load with a 165-168gr partition or monometal and "go fill and ark "to quote Dober.

As far as the scope, I really like both the 2.5-8 and 3.5-10. Pick what you like on the NULA.

All you need to do is add a 223/22-250 and 375 H&H/Ruger and you are done.

Unless you want to be a looney, I welcome you to the club. Or shoot me price on the NULA, and watch the classifieds for a whole bunch of rifles.

All in good fun.
CRS

Wanted a .270
Got a 30-06
Want to spend lots of money chasing the wind.
As my son in college would say: "First World Problem"

I think you should keep the '06 nula and use the 600$ towards the purchase of the new "Forbes rifle" in 270 for 1400 or so. Email I got says it will be ready soon.

Then you can tell us what the real differences are b/w the two rifles.

Yes, you have caught rifle looney!

You may or may not ever heal from it, it is the perfectionism that is probably a part of your general personality.
But while you have it, don't sell any of the rifles you acquire that are exceptionally accurate, not all rifles even custom ones are exceptionally accurate.

If the wife is pressuring you to only have one rifle, you will have to work it out between you, if that is not the case, keep the NULA and buy other rifles!!!!

I forgot to mention there is some overlap in felt recoil between 06/270 recoil. A 270 loaded hot can feel more than some 06 recoil, but there is generally not much difference beteen them, certainly not a reason to change calibers in my view.

I have found on my magnums that a "LimbSaver" brand recoil pad makes anything more pleasant.
good hunting

7x57 mauser, I'm thinking of re-barelling my 06 Ti to one.

Here is what you do, just put a good fixed 4x or 6x on that rifle and zero it in with what ever load you like and go hunting. I would not go thru the head ache to change a 30-06 to a 270 or the other way around. Good lord you would have to spend the next fifty or so years shooting a lot of game to even be able to tell the difference. Now if you Bought a Blaser R-93 or an R-8 then all you would have to do is buy a barrel.

First you couldn't figure out how to use a bolt action rifle and Melvin had to show you how,plus he shot a group with it that you could cover with a dime.

By the time you're done [bleep] around you could have just waited on the .270 NULA in the first place.With any luck maybe Melvin can show you how to shoot a .270 also.

+1

Can't imagine anything better in the NULA than a no.2 30-06.

Bauer,

I understand that posting a question about rebarreling an 06' to a .270 will attract some flaming, but I think you're crossing the line a tad.
You say that me choosing to have Melvin replace the follower in my NULA vs. me doing it means I don't know how to work a bolt action rifle? If I pay $3,000 for a rifle, I expect the maker to make sure it works properly. I didn't feel comfortable taking off the stock and doing it myself simply because I've never done it before, AND I really didn't think I should have to do it in the first place. The only person who ever "showed me" how to "work" a bolt action rifle was my father when I was about 6 years old.
While Melvin had my rifle, I asked him if he would shoot some groups for me since my shooting bench was in poor shape and I trusted him and his setup to be able to see what the rifle was really capable of more than mine. Melvin offered to shoot the groups for me, and I was/am very thankful.
I welcome the advice of other forum members. I don't welcome a forum member taking the opportunity to talk chit to me in response to a legitimate question.

PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, feel free to put me on your ignore list. I'll do you the same favor.

Schoolcraft, yes stick with the 06 a little while. I like the 270 more but the 06 is second. +2 I think a good idea is to pick up a Forbes later in 270. What a combo that would be.!

Its your money.
Get the rifle you really want.
dave