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How in the world did we make it before stainless steel?? Steel Wool and WD-40
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Melvin Forbes told me stainless actions in his opinion are a gimick because they will still rust. Stainless barrels are better for longer life. Don't shoot the messenger, I just repeating what he told me! 
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How in the world did we make it before stainless steel?? ....and most still make it easily today. However as a few others have mentioned, for the price difference it wouldn't have hurt them all that much to just go ahead and use it from the start as a selling point if nothing else. Since the comparisons have already begun, the question for me is what will most compare it with and what will be its competition? An original Nula or a Kimber? Kimber seems to have their act together from the accuracy standpoint, and the clone had best be able to shoot alongside equally well. If it can't consistently hang with a Nula, it should get a pass. If it can't hang with the Kimber it will not, and with some of the groups some are throwing out with Kimbers of recent vintage, the clone best come out shooting. The campfire verbal wars of the future should be some classics. 
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Douglas stainless barrels are "generally more accurate than chromemoly" is what Melvin told me. I have found this but IMO it is neither here nor there as far as realistic hunting practices go.....Plus as stated. Stainless buys some time.... I luv the way stainless does not mar like blued CM. And like another stated. Get it beadblasted etc......if you want to neatin it up after a few seasons. The stainless barrels work better for me as they seem to beat tree branches out of my stalk path better LOL
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Melvin Forbes told me stainless actions in his opinion are a gimick because they will still rust. Stainless barrels are better for longer life. Don't shoot the messenger, I just repeating what he told me! Night and day difference between hunting a Stainless action and a CM action, when it comes to rust. My CM action 243ai drives me insane. I can't do enough maintenance on that thing to keep the rust off of it while hunting in Nov. Stainless on a Rem 700 is way more forgiving, obviously.
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How in the world did we make it before stainless steel?? Steel Wool and WD-40 LOL I use 'lanolin' where the eye cannot(not in the trigger though!) see. And even after the nastiest of rain, grit etc... I never ever pull my rifles out of its stock that season or the next.......Down the track I will do a quick inspection & a wipe of lanolin.
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Time for a little more of this........ It's been interesting reading this thread. It reminds me a lot of the threads on Berger VLD's, with a lot of speculation and assumptions from people who have obviously never even shot a NULA or ever talked to Melvin Forbes.
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Well its going to be interesting to see how this pans out, Knowing Mel Forbes, all the ducks are in a row this time. What it will do is force the others to turn out better put together and finished rifles. I think you are going to see some real interesting things in a few years if this takes off. Considering the Economic trouble the country is in and Mel is putting his money and reputation at risk, and yet there is still a good bit of bitching because he is not making a Model 20 version or the no good SOB is just making 270's and 30-06 at this time and not 9.3 B-S. Most men who are at his age and place in live look at retirement, Not Mel he makes one of the best rifle you could ever buy, how many to you see on the Use gun rack? Very very few. I will buy one in 270 just because.
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There's no way to sugarcoat CM on a Hard Use Killing Rifle. While I can whistle corrosive primers through topflight tubes,I do not. Could also whistle BP through schit too,but do not. Could also fly glass that fogs and do not. Could also wear boots that leak,but do not. Could also drive a blade that didn't hold an edge,but do not...and the list goes on.
I never was into [bleep] around and am assuredly not about to start,by cutting a $1500 check for a Goat [bleep].
Much enjoy the Haybale & Crockett Treatise from the Do-Nothing Gang,in regards to Montucky rust. This schit is PRICELESS!
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When will you buy one????
A month? July??
When?
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I have a stainless classic M70 & a stainless Ruger MKII. I find them more forgiving.
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Imho, It's going to be mass produced clone of the Nula. Not much hand fitting, which accounts for $$$ on the rifles price tag. Mass produced receivers, stocks. He will still build his Nula with the grace of his hands, hand fitting, acute attention to detail through out the rifles assembly/making. Kimber better start to worry, once these rifles get out with a SS barrel! I think even a blued barrel Fobes rifle will take customers away pretty quick. By offering CM only, Forbes/NULA/whatever, lost at the gate. I don't think Kimber has anything to worry about other than trying to move faster to get rifles in their customers hands and filling all those back-orders.... Two ways to look at it. It seems Kimber now have their [bleep] together from my last rifle(Montana 84L) I received, which is a damn sweet rifle for those $. But the 2 Montana's I had before that(first production runs of 84M & 8400. 308Win & 338WM) where POS, although they shot good........Issues with feeding.....etc....). So what we have is 10 odd years of ironing out 'bugs' for Kimber. And like I stated. All seems to be solved. NULA/Forbes on the other hand has had allot more time to work through the bugs. And all rifles have some, some just more than others...... So the Forbes rifles have a head start with their pedigree in NULA to let the good times roll straight up......without too many issues. It's going to be a tussle but there will be always men that want CRF with 3 position Model 70 safety on the shroud & others that lust PF with 2/3 position safeties near the tang........ It can only be a good thing for us & the future UL loonies out there just got rid of a 84l that kimber fixed, just took a new barrel and stock to get it shooting correct, yeah they got the bugs worked out of them! Rifles like that should never leave their shop. Im not a kimber hater, as i have a two that will never leave, couple that should of never left! Nice rifles when they perform like they should! As my fiancee pointed out to me, i am getting better groups with my .44 super redhawk-leupold deltapoint at 100 yards, then the kimber did before the trip back! She thought that was funny, i did not!
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Melvin Forbes told me stainless actions in his opinion are a gimick because they will still rust. Stainless barrels are better for longer life. Don't shoot the messenger, I just repeating what he told me! Well, there's this schit called Tennifer, Ion-bond, Mellonite etc, the list goes on. Does he put it on his actions? I dunno, maybe he does and I'm clueless, but if he did, rust would not be an issue.
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Truth of the matter is Kimber's stainless is some of the easiest rusting I've seen.
Take care of your stuff and it will take care of you.
Stainless is no panacea... it just buys you a little more time.
IME brad is absolutely spot on with this statement. Both My SS/Model 70 and Rem 700 SS rifle's have show an ability to battle the elements better than my SS Kimbers.. The worst SS I've seen so far was the SS Howa 1500.. JME. It really dosen't rain much here though. We only get 75-80 inches of rain a year. So I guess thats really not much of a test. 
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If a stainless Forbes rifle sold for the same price as a Montana then I would be interested in looking at one..
Otherwise, why?
Hell even Squirrel Boy figured that one out..
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Truth of the matter is Kimber's stainless is some of the easiest rusting I've seen.
Take care of your stuff and it will take care of you.
Stainless is no panacea... it just buys you a little more time.
IME brad is absolutely spot on with this statement. Both My SS/Model 70 and Rem 700 SS rifle's have show an ability to battle the elements better than my SS Kimbers.. The worst SS I've seen so far was the SS Howa 1500.. JME. It really dosen't rain much here though. We only get 75-80 inches of rain a year. So I guess thats really not much of a test. Must be nice to stay so dry. I don't get much over 180" a year and never don't not have a rifle thrown over a shoulder and that during every month of the year. I'm more than a touch "comfy" with a saturated Montucky and for clarity,that'd be a gross understatement. Too bad rifles don't have hour meters on 'em,as it really would spruce up a conversation.(grin)
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Yeah, my stuff never gets wet... ![[Linked Image]](http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa326/bradmacmt/Hunting/P1000361.jpg)
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Bone dry LOL
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I guess in a perfect world the Blaser or Cerakote coatings on stainless would be best, but......stainless barrels will have to do me. Plus getting Cerakote requires smithwork......so I might as well sell my soul to the devil LOL
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