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15 years ago we were buying every broken break action 410 we could find at $50. We would epoxy and pin a broken stock, or make an new firing pin.
But those all had exposed hammers. The inherit functionality of an enclosed hammer Sav 219 or Sav 220 is higher.
Most people do not see that, and so low priced 219s and 220s happen..... locally.
My guess is that the front half of a 410 gauge Sav 220 would go for $325 on ebay.
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Which part number Lyman receiver sight is that? I collect single shots, and do like the feel of the 219. The awkward scope mounting has always deterred me from acquiring one of them. I guess you could D&T for a receiver sight, and have a light handy .30-30 single shot
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Which part number Lyman receiver sight is that? I collect single shots, and do like the feel of the 219. The awkward scope mounting has always deterred me from acquiring one of them. I guess you could D&T for a receiver sight, and have a light handy .30-30 single shot That is not a Lyman. Its a Redfield.
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I`d rather put my money in a Ruger # 1 single shot
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I have owned many of the earlier Model 219's and 220's. No trouble with any of them except for the trigger pull. They are getting harder to find in the rare calibers and gauges. I found a Deluxe 220 in 28 ga. a while back. It is in great condition and I paid $399.00 for it with no regrets. Anyone have one in .219 Zipper? I have been told they are out there. I met a guy that says he has a hang tag with that caliber listed on it. I would like to buy one. They are probably the best and most nicely finished single shots of the time.
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My Dad had one rechambered to 30-40 Kraig by Bill Morrison. Came back in the house bleeding from putting his thumb over the top with ball ammo.
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I've seen several .219s chambered to ,219 Zipper. All were rechambered .22 Hornets; Savage never made a Zipper to my knowledge, certainly never cataloged one. They tried a number of chamberings for the 219 at their R&D shop, including .357 Magnum AND Maximum, but they never sold them commercially. Numrichs bought all those R&D barrels and made up some guns from used receivers and some factory replacements they had also bought from Savage Utica after it closed. Those guns were sold out of Numrich's store in New Hurley NY and get resold occasionally as factory original products. They aren't.
I've seen 219s from that source in .22 Rem Jet, .256 Win Mag, .357 and .357 Maximum. Also 220 shotguns in .22 shot and 9mm rimfire shot. The .30-40s I've seen were all rechambered .30-30s. They work fine but they DO back right up on you! If you're shooting at an elk, you don't feel it, though. Had a friend in Idaho with one of these and he'd only bought one box of .30-40s for it nine years before I met him and had got a meat elk every year since he got it. Had 5 rounds left at that time.
Wish somebody would make the original Utica 219 again with an investment cast receiver, a D&T barrel, a steel trigger guard, and a rifle trigger. A tougher firing pin would help too.
Thompson Center tried the concept with their "Aristocrat" hammerless but it was just too complicated to operate for most of us peasants, and it balanced odd to me.
The 219 ergonomics are just right for me. All mine have had shotgun barrels/forends fitted to them, just for fun.
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I made a forend for the Sav 219 I bought two weeks ago. It has an extra sling stud far enough forward for a bi pod and shooting 30-30 long range.
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Sav .30-30 came through LGS. Was clean. Priced right. Goodness the trigger was HORRIBLE. I passed. Don't like .30-30 anyway. Fleetig thought of redoing to something different. Pops has a TCR83 in Hornet w pretty good wood. I'll proly snag it, since he got a mini Sharps in hornet and the TCR collects dust. But he's also got a #3 in .219 Donaldson wasp
I want em both, but aint got the funds for a double right now.
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