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Really? You see no difference between a religion telling you the world is 6000 years old and evolutionary theory?
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The Real Hawkeye: There has never been a scientific theory better supported by the facts than that of evolution. Am not expressing any views on the theory of evolution today, but cannot help but ponder this. OK,if this is said by a person who knows little about science and has not engaged many scientific actions - then chalk it up to ignorance. But, if this person professes to know and do science - OUCH ! - something went badly wrong.
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What religion do you want to talk about.I was a geology major so I see things on that time scale.I do understand your question.It comes from the first book of the Tora.If a person reads it and assumes a few things he can come up with that number.Its not what it says.You see it only says "in the beginning" it does not say when that was.Now if you read most english bibles say it was void and without form.The problem is the word was.Let me give an example-I saw Nagasaki and it was void and without form.Ya see it had become that way not created that way.I dont do 6000 years.
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The Real Hawkeye: There has never been a scientific theory better supported by the facts than that of evolution. Am not expressing any views on the theory of evolution today, but cannot help but ponder this. OK,if this is said by a person who knows little about science and has not engaged many scientific actions - then chalk it up to ignorance. But, if this person professes to know and do science - OUCH ! - something went badly wrong. I'm a veritable Master of Science. Got a piece of paper hanging on the wall that says so. 
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There has never been a scientific theory better supported by the facts than that of evolution. ... That statement could only be made with a lack of understanding of the physical sciences. Evolution cannot in any way, shape, or form be "better supported by the facts" than the laws of physics that can be demonstrated any day of the week in a physics or chemistry lab. I'm speaking of scientific theory, not laws. Like heliocentric theory, gravitation theory, or evolution theory. Even theories in the physical sciences are better supported by the facts than evolution is. Yes, biology is more of a science than the so-called social sciences are, but biology is not at the same level of science that the physical sciences are. I kinda feel a little sorry for evolutionary biologists because they're trying to make chicken salad out of chicken feathers (or chicken waste, if you prefer) in terms of science.
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There has never been a scientific theory better supported by the facts than that of evolution. ... That statement could only be made with a lack of understanding of the physical sciences. Evolution cannot in any way, shape, or form be "better supported by the facts" than the laws of physics that can be demonstrated any day of the week in a physics or chemistry lab. + 4.1Billion
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But, how come sometimes I just feel like monkeying around, Uh, and I like bananas too. More Freud than Darwin, most likely. OK, seriously the post of the year.
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So, Miller-Urey has nothing to do with origins or evolution? That silly schit has been taught in every [bleep] high school in North America for over forty year.
BIG bullschit flag waving here. Many of the current HS texts have a chapter for origins of life seperate from those covering evolution.
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So let's see- then if asses screw apes for eons, then it will work? PS. Animal adaptation (smaller deer in the hill country from overcrowding) is not the same as evolutionary change. Have you ever made a serious effort to study evolution? I got a "A" in comparative anatomy in Pre-med. How did you get through a pre-med program without acknowledging something so fundamental to biology as evolution? Odd question, particularly since there are plenty of doctors, trained in top medical schools and having completed rigorous residency programs, who do not accept the theory of evolution. Steve.
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A long long time ago, people had FAITH in a Sun god. Or Tree god. Or a coyote shape shifter god.
And a long long time ago, the best scientific minds KNEW the earth was flat. And it was the center of the universe.
Good luck with this debate. Again. To your first point, religion is (on some level) pure kookery. Was then, is now, will be forever. To your second point, the beauty of science is that it... uh... evolves. It's NOT dogma; it self-corrects. To your third point, yes, this is a pointless debate.  The problem occurs when people who call themselves scientists make their "science" dogma. We've seen it happen with both evolution and "climate change." Both of those areas of study have had a lot more out-and-out fraud than any other fields of "scientific" study, with the possible exception of alchemy.
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Lots has happened since W & C you know. Rather lots.
But in the meantime, alien DNA or not, you are good with the 30 million (+/- 20 million) species evolving from this bit of alien DNA? Cool. You stand out from this crowd of antis. No, I think that is BULLSCHIT as well. Miller-Urey notwithstanding, the entire evolution enterprise is a [bleep] fraud, it always has been. THERE ARE NO TRANSITIONAL FOSSILS, NONE. Darwin predicted they would be found, they obstinantly refuse to turn up. You're right a lot has been learned about the cell since the 50's, it is a LOT more complicated than even they thought at the time. This means it is even less probable/possible for mankind to have ever crawled out of the slime. It never happened dude. You figure out what your alternative belief system should be. I already have.
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Really? You see no difference between a religion telling you the world is 6000 years old and evolutionary theory? Both are demonstrably faith-based.
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Really? You see no difference between a religion telling you the world is 6000 years old and evolutionary theory? Both are demonstrably faith-based. Demonstrably? Please so demonstrate how evolutionary biology is faith based? I'm still waiting on someone to show me the math how genetics + genetic variation cannot equal evolution. Seems to be no takers.
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Lots has happened since W & C you know. Rather lots.
But in the meantime, alien DNA or not, you are good with the 30 million (+/- 20 million) species evolving from this bit of alien DNA? Cool. You stand out from this crowd of antis. No, I think that is BULLSCHIT as well. Miller-Urey notwithstanding, the entire evolution enterprise is a [bleep] fraud, it always has been. THERE ARE NO TRANSITIONAL FOSSILS, NONE. Darwin predicted they would be found, they obstinantly refuse to turn up. You're right a lot has been learned about the cell since the 50's, it is a LOT more complicated than even they thought at the time. This means it is even less probable/possible for mankind to have ever crawled out of the slime. It never happened dude. You figure out what your alternative belief system should be. I already have. There are thousands, if not tens of thousands, of transitional fossils that have been found.
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THERE ARE NO TRANSITIONAL FOSSILS, NONE. Darwin predicted they would be found, they obstinantly refuse to turn up....
It never happened dude. ...
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Lots has happened since W & C you know. Rather lots.
But in the meantime, alien DNA or not, you are good with the 30 million (+/- 20 million) species evolving from this bit of alien DNA? Cool. You stand out from this crowd of antis. No, I think that is BULLSCHIT as well. Miller-Urey notwithstanding, the entire evolution enterprise is a [bleep] fraud, it always has been. THERE ARE NO TRANSITIONAL FOSSILS, NONE. Darwin predicted they would be found, they obstinantly refuse to turn up. You're right a lot has been learned about the cell since the 50's, it is a LOT more complicated than even they thought at the time. This means it is even less probable/possible for mankind to have ever crawled out of the slime. It never happened dude. You figure out what your alternative belief system should be. I already have. There are thousands, if not tens of thousands, of transitional fossils that have been found. So, a past curator of the British Museum is FOS? He said he didn't [bleep]' have any. I guess you had 'em hid out. Imagine Red on the 70's show..... "DUMBASS!"
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So, a past curator of the British Museum is FOS? He said he didn't [bleep]' have any. I guess you had 'em hid out.
Imagine Red on the 70's show.....
"DUMBASS!"
Chill out. You can disagree and debate without calling someone a dumbass or dropping "PH" bombs every 2 seconds. Cant you? Not very Christian of you. Doesnt the Book say something about how to treat people?
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Yea, one of the last ones they found, The Missing Link, turned out to be a pigs tooth. Of course, they had that retraction in small print on the last page.
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THERE ARE NO TRANSITIONAL FOSSILS, NONE. Darwin predicted they would be found, they obstinantly refuse to turn up....
It never happened dude. ... Damn you're dumb. You post a picture of a fossil of a long extinct fish and trot out that silly-assed archeopteryx. When I went to high school I was assured that arche was a link between dinosaurs/reptiles and modern birds. Now they've admitted it was a [bleep] bird and you are dumb enough to cite that as proof of evolution.
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Really? You see no difference between a religion telling you the world is 6000 years old and evolutionary theory? Both are demonstrably faith-based. Libs lie, He doesn't.
The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time by the blood of patriots and tyrants.
If being stupid allows me to believe in Him, I'd wish to be a retard. Eisenhower and G Washington should be good company.
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