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Just wanted to give everyone a heads up. Had a deal go south with user 444Matt. On March 21st he listed some 30-06 ammo here on the classifieds. I sent him a PM telling him I would buy it from him. I put a check in the mail the next day. I sent him another PM on the 29th asking him if he recieved the funds. He told me he got it and the ammo would ship that Saturday. Fast forward to April 10th. Sent him a PM asking if he had shipped it he said he had shipped the ammo via USPS (which is against USPS rules) Sent him another PM on April 15th explaining to him that I needed the ammo by Friday the 20th or we would have to figure somthing else out. He told me it wouldn't be a problem and that if I didn't have them by Friday he would refund my money. Friday rolls around, no ammo. He then gave me a bogus tracking number to track them. I told him I just wanted my money back. Here it is May 9th, no ammo, and no check. I understand that things happen and some things take longer than they usually should, but this has carried on long enough. Buyer beware of 444Matt. He failed to deliver the items I bought and then failed to refund my money.

That' sucks that you can't trust some people. Sorry you got burned. Thanks for the info. Take care, Paul

Come on 444Matt don't be doing chit like this. Give the man his money back.

Chesterwy I hope it was not a large amount. People doing this is really unfortunate.

I've dealt with Matt previously and never had any problems either? Hopefully it works out.

Im not saying you are in the wrong, but he has been a member for a while with several thousand posts. Maybe he has a legitmate reason?

He is on the site right now. Hope you guys get it worked out

I am sure it is misunderstanding. Matt is a stand up guy and would not knowingly defraud anyone.

Same here, not defending anyone (we only have one side of the story here), but have you noticed how it's usually the low post count guys that start this stuff, and just as often end up eating their words?

How many posts has he done? I always use this as an indicator

444Matt - 3137

chesterwy - 53

I am fairly new here and have had good luck so far, I have dealt with people with thousands of posts and some with less than 12 posts with equal satisfaction from each and I believe (hope) that they would say the same about me. I don't think it is the quantity of posts or lack there of that you makes you better or worse to deal with. Just MHO. Good luck and I hope it gets worked out and I hope everyone has the same luck as I have had.

Still, if things have happened as Chester says, Matt has some 'splainin' to do, doncha' think?

The number of posts doesn't have anything to do with anything.

Each transaction is independent of every other transaction.

Let the evidence of the transaction rule.

So, how did you verify that the tracking number was false? If that was confirmed by the Post Office it would seem to be a pretty good indication that the seller was attempting fraud.

That's really unfair to the OP who has been a member since '09.

Any friend of 444Matt should PM him and help him save his own reputation.

I don't have a dog in this fight but a USPS "tracking number" is worthless until the package is delivered. It's not really a tracking number, it's a delivery confirmation.

No, it's not "unfair".

I made an observation, that a lot of others have said in the past. And it does seem that more often than not, these threads turn out bad for the originators. We'll just have to wait and see how this one plays out.

As for the post count, somebody asked (I quoted them). I gave the numbers that anybody can see.

Until 444Matt posts (or decides not to), we only have one side of the story.

You must work for the government. You used a statistic to discredit the OP. Let 444Matt do his own discrediting, if he can.

I don't care where you post or how long ya been here I got screwed over by a member here that has been around the fire quite awhile. He wanted to look at a scope I was selling before trading with the agreement that if it wasn't what he wanted he would pay to ship it back to me and because of his time and postings in several area's I said ok (won't happen twice). My ad listed the scope (with picture) as having ringmarks and when he got it he said they looked like gouges which was bull,shouldn't have mattered if it had, his word of paying return shipment was dirt,so to get it back I had to send him the money. All said and done cost me $30 for someone to look at my scope. So people can't put all blame of being a con onto the new guy. The guy that got me is nothing more than a A-hole. I kept all pm's if anyone ever needs evidence. Some just get their rocks off screwing others.

I just hope this works out to satisfy both parties involved.

I agree with RickinTN, USPS tracking is nothing more than delivery confirmation! I shipped a handgun (have FFL) via USPS Priority Mail Small Box w/insurance & delivery confirmation last month; took nearly (4) weeks!!! Expected delivery was four days after shipped & continued to read the same for the entire time! Also, 444Matt may be reluctant to discuss mailing ammo via USPS; whether he done it knowing or not knowing its unlawful! My bet, it will work out OK. Good Luck to both.