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#6650350 - 07/03/12 Re: Any 257 Roberts fans for whitetail? [Re: southtexas]  
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I finally decided he's a troll and put him on ignore.

I never used to put anybody on ignore, but in the past year or so have probably done it half-a-dozen times. I found it's a very easy way to tell if a thread is worth reading: If ***You are ignoring this user*** pops up frequently I know it's not!


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#6650375 - 07/03/12 Re: Any 257 Roberts fans for whitetail? [Re: Mule Deer]  
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Yeah, you're probably right. I used to think that he was a pretty nice old gentleman, just a little quirky.

But recently, he's either lost it entirely, or as you say, he's just a troll trying to stirr the pot. (Which he has done successfully grin)

#6650481 - 07/03/12 Re: Any 257 Roberts fans for whitetail? [Re: southtexas]  
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He's making Swampy look not so bad.

He's still leagues ahead of Larry Root, who IMHO is the worst of the worst... frown

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#6650653 - 07/03/12 Re: Any 257 Roberts fans for whitetail? [Re: southtexas]  
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One one hand a cartridge can be 'good' and still not be a commercial success. Thus saying that about the 257R or the 358W is just a dig at the rounds. They work and make somebody happy.

I still think the .358W is cool as a woods cartridge for the way I use it. The rifle can be a Featherweight and the round about optimum for smaller big game in the woods. Others call their 257R "The Bob" and say they love it! So it goes, we all have favorites.

As to the 257R on deer I feel that one could use a more powerful round. Of course there is some tiny person somewhere who can't shoot a deer without one or someone else who can't afford a second gun.

At least it's legal for deer in most places. It is way ahead of the .22 deer guns on that.

I just got back from hunting today. It's kind of hot out here at 86F. I saw two turkeys but no chucks. I brought a favorite 30-06 along loaded with 155 VLD's for coyotes and a .17HMR for shots where noise would matter. A 257R would have been fine as well. It's just that I have had a 243 since 1957 and I have no want for a 257R.

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That the first shot from it's cold barrel from my C.F. hunting rifles hit where I want it at 200 yds is more important to me that what groups it may shoot at 100 yds!

My match rifles must shoot groups. We get sighting shots at matches!
#6650708 - 07/03/12 Re: Any 257 Roberts fans for whitetail? [Re: Savage_99]  
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I've heard it said, if one finds himself in a hole, QUIT DIGGING!

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#6650725 - 07/03/12 Re: Any 257 Roberts fans for whitetail? [Re: Dirtfarmer]  
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If I found a rifle that I really liked chambered for the 257R I might buy it for the rifle.

I just got a nice rifle chambered for the .300 Win. Mag. which I don't like or need. I thought about changing the barrel but then I would just spend money for another gun I don't really need and it's a belted head size. At least a 257R would not kick. Don't know what I would use it for however. It would be ok for coyotes............


That the first shot from it's cold barrel from my C.F. hunting rifles hit where I want it at 200 yds is more important to me that what groups it may shoot at 100 yds!

My match rifles must shoot groups. We get sighting shots at matches!
#6651770 - 07/03/12 Re: Any 257 Roberts fans for whitetail? [Re: Mule Deer]  
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Originally Posted by Mule Deer
I finally decided he's a troll and put him on ignore.

I never used to put anybody on ignore, but in the past year or so have probably done it half-a-dozen times. I found it's a very easy way to tell if a thread is worth reading: If ***You are ignoring this user*** pops up frequently I know it's not!


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#6653066 - 07/04/12 Re: Any 257 Roberts fans for whitetail? [Re: Lorne]  
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Ahh, the internet..... The only place individuals like Savage 99 can become an expert on the 257 Roberts without ever owning or firing one. After nearly 40 years of shooting and hunting with at least a half-dozen different 257's, my conclusions about this great cartridge are the direct opposite of his on all counts.

His conclusions about the 257 seem to parallel the same logic Lee J. Hoots used with the .270 not being enough cartridge for a mule deer..... only Hoots shot a 270 before spewing....

#6653194 - 07/04/12 Re: Any 257 Roberts fans for whitetail? [Re: boomwack]  
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Originally Posted by boomwack

Got a hold of some OLD school partitions, in 117gr. simi-spitzers. Now them puppies leave holes in deer and shoot beautifully. To bad I only have less than 50


I had something like 15 boxes of those for sale in the classifieds about a month ago...

#6653232 - 07/04/12 Re: Any 257 Roberts fans for whitetail? [Re: PastorDan]  
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I really like my Mauser in 257 Roberts and have killed quite a few deer with it. Every one I have shot with it died very quickly.
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Bravo

#6653325 - 07/04/12 Re: Any 257 Roberts fans for whitetail? [Re: Notropis]  
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very nice!

#6655192 - 07/04/12 Re: Any 257 Roberts fans for whitetail? [Re: Notropis]  
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Notropis,

Beautiful rifle!

Amazing how a "useless and obsolete" cartridge kills deer.


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#6655966 - 07/05/12 Re: Any 257 Roberts fans for whitetail? [Re: Mule Deer]  
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It has a handsome stock. The figure is superb. The barrel looks like SS and a little heavy.

To me the 257R would be a coyote gun. Like my other game chambers it has too much bullet for chucks and I can shoot more gun at game. I am going hunting in an hour or so. My latest pet is a custom in 300 Win. Mag. Now that's really too much gun for here. Nice rifle however. Kind of wish it were a 257 R. in a way. On the other hand it does have more range.

I looked for factory ammo and all that WW listed was the 117gr?

Its just another cartridge that did not catch on. Otherwise it's the favorite of some and that's good.


That the first shot from it's cold barrel from my C.F. hunting rifles hit where I want it at 200 yds is more important to me that what groups it may shoot at 100 yds!

My match rifles must shoot groups. We get sighting shots at matches!
#6656006 - 07/05/12 Re: Any 257 Roberts fans for whitetail? [Re: Savage_99]  
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Here is a nice one in a Brno 22.

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That the first shot from it's cold barrel from my C.F. hunting rifles hit where I want it at 200 yds is more important to me that what groups it may shoot at 100 yds!

My match rifles must shoot groups. We get sighting shots at matches!
#6656048 - 07/05/12 Re: Any 257 Roberts fans for whitetail? [Re: Savage_99]  
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Originally Posted by Savage_99

I looked for factory ammo and all that WW listed was the 117gr?


Look a little harder. Midway lists factory ammo from Winchester, Remington, Federal, Doubletap, Horandy, Norma, and HSM. Pertty hard to find, though. Had to go to Midwayusa.com, and click on ammunition. wink

#6656105 - 07/05/12 Re: Any 257 Roberts fans for whitetail? [Re: Savage_99]  
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Originally Posted by Savage_99
Here is a nice one in a Brno 22.

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I'm gonna get fired for looking at porn if pics like this one keep getting posted...

#6656121 - 07/05/12 Re: Any 257 Roberts fans for whitetail? [Re: PastorDan]  
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Never shot a whitetail with one but mine was a wonderful muley gun. Wish I had it back...it was a pf Winchester 70 Featherweight. The one I had was a bit picky on bullets but once I pushed heavy loads of 4350 with 117-120 gr. bullets it did just fine.

#6672429 - 07/10/12 Re: Any 257 Roberts fans for whitetail? [Re: PastorDan]  
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I haven't been without a Roberts-chambered rifle in over 30 years. First high-power rifle purchase was when I was in high school - a push-feed M70 Fwt. Traded that for a Rem 700 Classic and it progressed from there. I can honestly say it was my first and it will definitely be my last. When I start whittling down, the Roberts will remain. Not sure which rifle it will be....but the Roberts will remain.



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#6672470 - 07/10/12 Re: Any 257 Roberts fans for whitetail? [Re: 257heaven]  
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My 9 yo son is excited to be receiving his first deer rifle... a 'campfire special' in 257 Roberts on a Turkish mauser action w/ an Apex take-off.

His oldest sister's boyfriend, a gifted artist, is helping him design a stencil for his rattle-canned (temporary) tupperware stock. Once he is full grown we'll get him a custom walnut stock, having made a few refinements along the way.

Can't wait to see my boy take down his first deer with HIS rifle... I have a feeling he'll take many, many heads of game with it.


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#6673448 - 07/11/12 Re: Any 257 Roberts fans for whitetail? [Re: efw]  
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I can't imagine it not being anything but ideal for WT seeing that my Savage 99, 250-3000 smacks the piss out of them. That with a 87 gr hot cor. I also owned a 25-06 that was wicked on deer. Many a fine cartridge is out there that just didn't win the popularity contest due to poor or no representation by some big name blow hard. It will do anything a 243 will do and will just about duplicate a 6.5 Swede.

#6674262 - 07/11/12 Re: Any 257 Roberts fans for whitetail? [Re: efw]  
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Originally Posted by efw
My 9 yo son is excited to be receiving his first deer rifle... a 'campfire special' in 257 Roberts on a Turkish mauser action w/ an Apex take-off.

His oldest sister's boyfriend, a gifted artist, is helping him design a stencil for his rattle-canned (temporary) tupperware stock. Once he is full grown we'll get him a custom walnut stock, having made a few refinements along the way.

Can't wait to see my boy take down his first deer with HIS rifle... I have a feeling he'll take many, many heads of game with it.


Please allow me to tell a quick story and make a suggestion.

When my son took his first whitetail with a Ruger 77mkII Ultralight, it was chambered for the .257 Roberts. After the whooping and celebrating was done, and he had put his hands on his deer, I asked him if he had a knife on him. His little 8 year old eyes looked sheepish, when he had to reply in the negative.

I sat down on the ground beside him and that big old doe, then produced the small boker fixed blade that I had purchased for him. I told him that I couldn't give it to him and asked if he had any money. All he had was the penny I had given him for luck when we left to go hunting that morning. I took his penny and gave him that little knife, explaining that my Grandfather had taught me never to give or accept a knife from a friend. That I should always "buy" or "sell" with the purchase price of a coin.

I got the hug I was looking for, and then borrowed his knife to show him how to dress his deer. He's finally doing his own now, but I'd do another if I could go back to that hunt.

If you got him a .257 to hunt deer with, you would do well to make sure he has a knife, because he'll be needing it.



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