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Why a .223AI over a .22-250?
For me cheaper if not free brass of arguably better quality, and I had an already trued up .378 faced action.
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You will only be hunting a for days out of the year. So think about range fun and hunting.
A semi-automatic DPMS 338 federal, bullets from 160gr to 225gr.
A semi-automatic Noreen Bad News 300 win mag. I bet they worth the money!
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Not allowed to have semi automatics in south africa. Even getting a pump action is really difficult to get licence for. You have to prove you need it in order to get a licence for it.
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The answer to your posed question is so simple really
Buy one of each, cause history has shown that they all work just fine.
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Ok. I went down to the gun shop to ask what calibers are there best sellers. The answer I receives was. All Popular American and Popular European.. So that is the
.204 Ruger
.223
.22-250
.243
.25-06
6.5x55
.260
.270
7mm-08
7x64
7mm Rem Mag
308
30-06
300 Win Mag
Some 8mm calibres that I cant remember now.
338 Win Mag
9.3x62
375 H&H
375 Ruger becoming popular
After reading all the responces here and chatting to guy at gun shop I have decided my 1st rifle to be
30-06
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7x64
The guy at the gun shop says that the difference in terminal performance of the 7x64 compared to the 30-06 is very marginal and both are very popular cartridges.
So I am going to look out for a nice rifle in either one of those two, And buy whichever pops up first.
Second Rifle will then be a .223 or 6.5x55... But still decideing on that
And 3rd a 12 gauge shotgun or .375 (Ruger or H&H)
Then I have one spot open for a 9mm Pistol.
Thanks for all the Feedback buys
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And 3rd a 12 gauge shotgun or .375 (Ruger or H&H)
I gotta ask.........Why a 12 GA or a .375 magnum ?
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Well I figure if I have a 30-06 or 7x64 and a smaller 223/243/260 cal... I can hunt pretty much everything I want. So I am not sure that I need something bigger like 338/375
So unless something comes up that would result me needing a .375... I would get a 12 GA... Then I can go hunt some Egyptian Geese... But the bigger gun will only be in a couple of years. So lots of time to decide. Some guys say that the 375 works nicely on kudu/eland/Zebra...
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Well I figure if I have a 30-06 or 7x64 and a smaller 223/243/260 cal... I can hunt pretty much everything I want. So I am not sure that I need something bigger like 338/375
So unless something comes up that would result me needing a .375... I would get a 12 GA... Then I can go hunt some Egyptian Geese... But the bigger gun will only be in a couple of years. So lots of time to decide. Some guys say that the 375 works nicely on kudu/eland/Zebra... ![[Linked Image]](http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b115/robbinmyers/bigcupofshutthefuckup.jpg)
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But Why? Because I said that a 243, 7mm and 375 covers all my needs? A few outfitter sites reccomend 9.3x62 and .375 H&H for Black Wildebeest Eland Kudu Roan Sable Zebra Short of these big species, a 30-06, 7x64 and .270 will suffice. (I am however leaning toward one of 7x64 or 30-06) Many outfitters say that the absolute minimum for an eland is .338 Win Mag Since I am not sure if I will be hunting these species, Instead of a .375 then, I could get a 12GA to go birding with. For shorter distances (tyically less than 100m in bushveld)on small antelope a .223, .243 and .260 would all work well. How is this a stupid summation? http://www.africanskyhunting.co.za/trophies/livingstoneeland-hunting.htmlhttp://www.sahunting.co.za/species/eland/
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But Why? Because I said that a 243, 7mm and 375 covers all my needs? A few outfitter sites reccomend 9.3x62 and .375 H&H for Black Wildebeest Eland Kudu Roan Sable Zebra Short of these big species, a 30-06, 7x64 and .270 will suffice. (I am however leaning toward one of 7x64 or 30-06) Many outfitters say that the absolute minimum for an eland is .338 Win Mag Since I am not sure if I will be hunting these species, Instead of a .375 then, I could get a 12GA to go birding with. For shorter distances (tyically less than 100m in bushveld)on small antelope a .223, .243 and .260 would all work well. How is this a stupid summation? http://www.africanskyhunting.co.za/trophies/livingstoneeland-hunting.htmlhttp://www.sahunting.co.za/species/eland/I take it you are in Africa ? If so,it makes a lot more sense....
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Andre,I'll give you some truly "EXPERT" advice.Are you ready?Well,here it is...Get yourself a .243,a 7mm,and a .375.Problem solved. 
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I did not read all of this but it sounds like a 22 LR, 7X57 Mauser and 375 H&H situation to me.
JOC was right. The 270 Winchester on a Model 70 is a great combination as is the 30/06 and 375 H&H
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