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When I became a man... #6553156 05/30/12
Joined: May 2012 Posts: 119 M Metplat OP Campfire Member
OP Metplat Campfire Member M Joined: May 2012 Posts: 119	I put aside childish things... All this back and forth about this and that concerning the AR rifle... I had to clear my mind with some clear thoughts: http://www.dsarms.com/SA58-FAL-Carbine-PARA-Rifle-308-Cal----SA58CP18/productinfo/SA58CP18/ Someday.... When the bills are paid... When the wife is in a good mood... When my ship comes in... 7mm 7mm 7mm

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Re: When I became a man... Metplat #6553190 05/31/12
Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 4,831 Sierra Nevadas, Ca. pira114 Campfire Tracker
pira114 Campfire Tracker Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 4,831 Sierra Nevadas, Ca.	So what's your point? That ARs are for kids and real men only use "FALs?" Whatever.

Re: When I became a man... pira114 #6553291 05/31/12
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 57,494 Alaska R rost495 Campfire Kahuna
rost495 Campfire Kahuna R Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 57,494 Alaska	didn't realize the AR was not effective. We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....

Re: When I became a man... Metplat #6553574 05/31/12
Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 13,860 T Take_a_knee Campfire Outfitter
Take_a_knee Campfire Outfitter T Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 13,860	I just took possesion of that exact rifle, range report maybe next week. Due to some fortuitous trading, I've got about $850 in mine.

Re: When I became a man... Take_a_knee #6553635 05/31/12
Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 7,132 TC1 Campfire Tracker
TC1 Campfire Tracker Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 7,132	For $850 it's a screaming deal, for $1975 not so much. Terry

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Re: When I became a man... Take_a_knee #6553636 05/31/12
Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,798 Minnesota J JustOneGunner Campfire Regular
JustOneGunner Campfire Regular J Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,798 Minnesota	I love FALs, but for the outrageous prices they command, currently, I'm looking more at thee PTR91 GI.

Re: When I became a man... JustOneGunner #6553659 05/31/12
Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 13,860 T Take_a_knee Campfire Outfitter
Take_a_knee Campfire Outfitter T Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 13,860	Periodically, DSA gets in runs of guns made from STG58 parts kits, they are VERY accurate IME and function %100. I only sold mine cause I wanted a para. My STG58 was an MOA rifle with a 4x scope. Those STG guns sell for about $1200.

Re: When I became a man... Metplat #6554015 05/31/12
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 18,346 Likes: 1 Mobile J jimmyp Campfire Ranger
jimmyp Campfire Ranger J Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 18,346 Likes: 1 Mobile	I had a fixed stock FAL made by Imbel and imported by Springfield I bought used back in 1999. I had it for about 3 years. It was surprisingly accurate using the open sights and a rest. The dust cover precluded any optics mounting on it that I could figure out. I sold it for what I paid for it $1000.00 to a fellow with a strong back and a weak mind that watched too many zombie movies. I have a Kimber montana in 308 with a Minox 3-9 scope on it that weights maybe 7 pounds with 4 cartridges in it. If I need to carry something to shoot a 308 cartridge, its not going to be a 10 pound rifle with 4 pound loaded magazines, zombies be damned, they will just have to take what I give them and be happy with it even if its only 22 caliber.

Re: When I became a man... jimmyp #6554083 05/31/12
Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 32,044 Kpt.,TN , Montgomery, Co, VA bea175 Campfire 'Bwana
bea175 Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 32,044 Kpt.,TN , Montgomery, Co, VA	would rather have a M-14 then the FAL, but for now i will keep the AR over both. A Doe walks out of the woods today and says, that is the last time I'm going to do that for Two Bucks.

Re: When I became a man... bea175 #6554263 05/31/12
Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 13,860 T Take_a_knee Campfire Outfitter
Take_a_knee Campfire Outfitter T Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 13,860	Originally Posted by bea175 would rather have a M-14 then the FAL, but for now i will keep the AR over both. Not me, and I've run a BUNCH of OPM (other people's ammo) through both. Two countries bought M14's. How many bought FAL's? Take an M14 and drag it across the ground for about 500yd (think sniper stalk) and let me know how well it runs. BTDT.

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Re: When I became a man... jimmyp #6554265 05/31/12
Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 13,860 T Take_a_knee Campfire Outfitter
Take_a_knee Campfire Outfitter T Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 13,860	Originally Posted by jimmyp I had a fixed stock FAL made by Imbel and imported by Springfield I bought used back in 1999. I had it for about 3 years. It was surprisingly accurate using the open sights and a rest. The dust cover precluded any optics mounting on it that I could figure out. I sold it for what I paid for it $1000.00 to a fellow with a strong back and a weak mind that watched too many zombie movies. I have a Kimber montana in 308 with a Minox 3-9 scope on it that weights maybe 7 pounds with 4 cartridges in it. If I need to carry something to shoot a 308 cartridge, its not going to be a 10 pound rifle with 4 pound loaded magazines, zombies be damned, they will just have to take what I give them and be happy with it even if its only 22 caliber. Maybe you just need a good barbell.

Re: When I became a man... Take_a_knee #6554322 05/31/12
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 115,424 Likes: 13 South Florida deflave Campfire Sage
deflave Campfire Sage Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 115,424 Likes: 13 South Florida	I had a FAL for a bit. That thing was cool as schit. Why did I sell it? Travis Originally Posted by Geno67 Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Originally Posted by Judman Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. Originally Posted by KSMITH My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house

Re: When I became a man... Take_a_knee #6554871 05/31/12
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 18,346 Likes: 1 Mobile J jimmyp Campfire Ranger
jimmyp Campfire Ranger J Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 18,346 Likes: 1 Mobile	as far as I am concerned an FAL is a barbell.

Re: When I became a man... bea175 #6554930 05/31/12
Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 7,132 TC1 Campfire Tracker
TC1 Campfire Tracker Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 7,132	Originally Posted by bea175 would rather have a M-14 then the FAL, but for now i will keep the AR over both. I've owned 2 FAL's, 1 M1A and a whole bunch of AR-15's. I still own the M1A and AR-15's. Terry

Re: When I became a man... pira114 #6555686 05/31/12
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OP Metplat Campfire Member M Joined: May 2012 Posts: 119	Originally Posted by pira114 So what's your point? That ARs are for kids and real men only use "FALs?" Whatever. No offense intended brother! Just some friendly jocularity. 7mm 7mm 7mm

Re: When I became a man... jimmyp #6555692 05/31/12
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OP Metplat Campfire Member M Joined: May 2012 Posts: 119	Originally Posted by jimmyp as far as I am concerned an FAL is a barbell. THAT got me laughin out loud. 7mm 7mm 7mm

Re: When I became a man... rost495 #6555718 05/31/12
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OP Metplat Campfire Member M Joined: May 2012 Posts: 119	Originally Posted by rost495 didn't realize the AR was not effective. Hey! I need to say thanks to you specifically and everyone else on this board who has patiently answered my questions in the last 2 weeks. I sincerely appreciate it. I am not that smart about AR15's as y'all can tell. Once you start looking at the AR world closely it is like learning an entire new trade. Lots o little details that are not intuitively obvious to the novice. Again... Thanks y'all 7mm 7mm 7mm

Re: When I became a man... Take_a_knee #6555722 05/31/12
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OP Metplat Campfire Member M Joined: May 2012 Posts: 119	Originally Posted by Take_a_knee I just took possesion of that exact rifle, range report maybe next week. Due to some fortuitous trading, I've got about $850 in mine. If your safe is crowded you can store it at my place! LOL Please post pictures if you feel so inclined. 7mm 7mm 7mm

Re: When I became a man... jimmyp #6555863 05/31/12
Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 13,860 T Take_a_knee Campfire Outfitter
Take_a_knee Campfire Outfitter T Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 13,860	Originally Posted by jimmyp as far as I am concerned an FAL is a barbell. Can't do power cleans with it, not enough spin. A Pendlay is much better. When you get to where you can power clean your body weight for reps, wielding that FAL won't be much of an issue.

Re: When I became a man... Take_a_knee #6555946 05/31/12
Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 10,192 T TWR Campfire Outfitter
TWR Campfire Outfitter T Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 10,192	I lift heavy things at work all day long and I'm in pretty good shape for an old man. I own a couple of 10#+ rifles and carry them all day long when I want to. Problem is I don't want to that often. Give me a light weight carbine and I'm happy. If I want to carry a heavy gun, I'll have a specific use in mind. " Lots o little details that are not intuitively obvious to the novice." This is why I'm sort of stuck on AR's and don't know anything about AK's or FAL's. Good on you for learning what you can about something new.

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