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Originally Posted by mike762
I won't because I'm not voting for President. Those that do deserve what they get.


Yep! And by not voting for President look at what you got, how do you like what you got for the last four years? How has that worked out for you?

Can you handle another four years of BamBam? If you can go ahead and don't Vote! Then you will get what you deserve just like you did four years ago!

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Ron Paul is our country's only hope for redemption.


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Can you handle another four years of BamBam? If you can go ahead and don't Vote! Then you will get what you deserve just like you did four years ago!


Spoiled brats-the whole bunch of Paul supporters. miles


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DITTOS! I will write in Ron Paul. Four more years for Obama.


That seems to be what the Ron Paul movement was about from the beginning. I hope they take your guns, but I sure hope they leave mine alone. Anybody that helps the muslim deserves to have their schit confiscated. miles
Romney was decidedly anti-gun as Governor of Massachusetts. He supported, and signed into law, an "assault weapons" ban there, and opposed shall-issue concealed carry.

�We do have tough gun laws in Massachusetts, I support the gun laws in Massachusetts (Police Chief Controlled Discretionary Issue as opposed to Shall Issue), I won�t chip away at them, I believe they help protect us and provide for our safety� � Mitt Romney

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Originally Posted by milespatton
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DITTOS! I will write in Ron Paul. Four more years for Obama.


That seems to be what the Ron Paul movement was about from the beginning. I hope they take your guns, but I sure hope they leave mine alone. Anybody that helps the muslim deserves to have their schit confiscated. miles


You think Romney won't sign off on gun control? Think again! You are deluding yourself with a Republican president but I can understand that as I did that for decades myself.


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Originally Posted by Bristoe
Here's why I won't vote for Romney,...John Bolton.



I hear ya! That guy (Bolton) scares the crap out of me but so don't all Neocons.


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The man's a maniac,...and the talk is, he's going to be Romney's Secretary of State.

Read this:

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/302104/what-do-about-syria-john-r-bolton?pg=2

Bolton wants to seriously flirt with WW3.

He's crazy.

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,...and it's not just Bolton.

Romney has pretty much brought back the entire neocon crew from the Bush administration.

It's the war party all over again,...but this time they've got Russia and China in their sights.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politic...ed-mitt-romneys-foreign-policy-advisers/

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Ya'll are trying to paint a picture of a Romney presidency that is more liberal than the socialist 0bama presidency. I ain't buying it. Ya'll are sounding like sour grapes. miles


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I voted for McLame in 2008. I refuse to participate in another Kabuki Show in which the two protagonists are pathological liars, and proven to be so, and where the governing records of both are not that far apart.

You do what you want, but be assured that Romney, should he win, will be owned by the same people who own Obama, and you will be doomed to another disappointment. I'll try and refrain from saying "I told you so".


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Originally Posted by milespatton
Ya'll are trying to paint a picture of a Romney presidency that is more liberal than the socialist 0bama presidency. I ain't buying it. Ya'll are sounding like sour grapes. miles


The situation has progressed far beyond mere socialism with either of the dominant political parties.

I don't believe that any real political ideology is represented by either of them.

It's just brute force,...and the same people behind the scenes control both candidates.

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Interesting video.

Here's Bill Kristol praising Obama's policies and calling Obama a "Born Again Neocon",...for those of you who think there's a difference between the political parties.


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You do what you want, but be assured that Romney, should he win, will be owned by the same people who own Obama, and you will be doomed to another disappointment.


If we get 0bama out, I can live with my disappointment for four years. Like I said, sounds more and more like sour grapes for the Ron Paul supporters. miles


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Originally Posted by milespatton
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You do what you want, but be assured that Romney, should he win, will be owned by the same people who own Obama, and you will be doomed to another disappointment.


If we get 0bama out, I can live with my disappointment for four years. Like I said, sounds more and more like sour grapes for the Ron Paul supporters. miles


Actually,...sour grapes really doesn't figure into it.

It's just the severe dread of what's going to happen in the very near future if nothing is done to stop the monetary hemorrhage that the government is imposing on the country,...and neither Obama or Romney has any plan to do so.

They're both making plans to spend big bucks.

More than anything,..it's just the realization that, at this point, it can't be fixed,...regardless of who is President.

But also, Romney has plans to greatly increase military spending and his foreign policy advisors are making plans for a never ending series of wars.

So no,...it's not sour grapes,...it's just the realization that there's no relief in sight.

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Originally Posted by milespatton
Let me see if I can explain this to Ya'll. Ron Paul is out of the race. His people keep saying that they will not support Romney. That helps 0bama.

Sounds like you're the one who needs the explanation.

I'm not going to buy a two-hundred-foot yacht this year. Does that hurt the boating industry? Does it help the boating industry's competitors? No: I was never ever going to buy a 200ft yacht--or any other size--anyway. It has never been, and will never be, a possibility. The boating, auto, aviation, motorcycle, skateboard, and other vehicular industries are entirely responsible for their own success or failure; my decision not to buy a yacht this year either has absolutely no effect on any of them.

Similarly, Ron Paul supporters (at least, many of them) were never going to vote for Romney anyway. Romney can't "lose" their vote any more than the 200ft yacht industry can "lose" my business. Romney is responsible for his success or failure (and you, if you're a Romney supporter), not Paul supporters.

Well, okay: Romney will be responsible for his failure if he fails. If he succeeds, it won't be because he deserves to succeed; it'll be because, owing to the general perversity of things, only one of the candidates can lose, and Obama beat him to it.

A pox on both their houses.

This'd be cool: elect the President the same way we do now, with the additional requirement that in order to actually take office, he would need to have gotten a simple majority of the popular vote as well as a majority in the electoral college. If nobody got both majorities, then the office of President would go unfilled until the next regularly-scheduled election.

Never happen, though. Why not? Because after just one of those, we'd all be liable to find out just how desperately we need a President. To wit: not at all.


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Sounds like you're the one who needs the explanation.


You are still dodging the real point. If 0bama gets re-elected, we all lose. miles


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Originally Posted by Barak

This'd be cool: elect the President the same way we do now, with the additional requirement that in order to actually take office, he would need to have gotten a simple majority of the popular vote as well as a majority in the electoral college. If nobody got both majorities, then the office of President would go unfilled until the next regularly-scheduled election.

Never happen, though. Why not? Because after just one of those, we'd all be liable to find out just how desperately we need a President. To wit: not at all.
During the gap, the Senate could elect two Consuls in the manner of the Roman Republic to share in the executive powers till replaced by the Senate, or until the next popular election succeeds in a simple majority election of a single president to take their place for a four year term, subject to reelection for a second and final four year term, assuming again a simple majority.

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yeah....that worked out great for Rome, didn't it? sheesh.


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Originally Posted by Steve_NO
yeah....that worked out great for Rome, didn't it? sheesh.
It actually did for a longer period than our national republic has lasted.

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Some people think you can fix a spewing dike [dam] by sticking your finger in it.
Others are willing to roll up their sleeves and fix it right -realizing that a finger -some chewing gum etc. are futile.

No more clothes pins on my nose at election time.


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