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Yeah. You don't sound much PC from where I sit.

I'm working on it.

My town was incorporated, so in retrospect, I guess I was working for a private sector concern.

Sure, if we could afford one. At least he'd be interested in the case, lest we take our custom to one of his competitors. It'd be a lot easier to afford a private cop, though, if we weren't paying all that tax money to government cops who couldn't care less about something like a mugging, beyond taking a police report to send to the insurance company.


Who knows? We might even have the money for that if we didn't have to pay the government cops to ignore crime.


You seem to have an exceptionally good handle on that yourself. Perhaps you could assist me.

"You seem to have an exceptionally good handle on that yourself. Perhaps you could assist me."

I am sure that I couldn't offer up anything that would interest you in the least.

Check with TRH as he seems to be more your type.

I guess Barak hasn't heard of an Oath of Office taken by every sworn police officer in the USA.

Most look something like this...

" On my honor, I will never betray my badge, my integrity, my character, or the public trust. I will always have the courage to hold myself and others accountable for our actions. I will always uphold the Constitution, the community, and the agency I serve, so help me God."

Yeah, and Obama swore to uphold that same CONSTITUTION! He's done a great job of it hasn't he?

Yahhh...we're familiar with the whole "oath of office" business. We've seen what it means.

Specifically, for people to whom it's important, it's entirely unnecessary; that is, they'd be perfectly decent people without any oath at all. For the rest, it is entirely irrelevant--means nothing at all.

"I'm a sworn police officer" tells you just about exactly as much about a person you don't know as "I'm a Christian" does.

Ever notice that private-sector jobs involving great responsibility don't require any oath at all? An oath of office, like a trial by jury, is a Jerry-rigged government hack that attempts to distract the public from an immense conflict of interest. "I'm in a position to commit great acts of corruption for significant personal benefit, but...you can trust me because I promise not to."

Yeah.

Were you paid with money your customers freely chose to pay you for your services, money that they could just as freely have chosen not to pay you in exchange for the cessation of those services, or to pay to somebody else for his services instead of yours?

Or were you paid with money that was forcibly extorted from people who were coerced into tolerating your services regardless of their choice?

That's the question that's important, not whether your town was incorporated.

Folks moved from [bleep] areas into our town and similar surrounding towns for the safety, services and schools.

It's okay...I knew the answer before I asked the question. Took a page from NH K9's book.

Yes, and it's one of the reasons there's no loyalty to any specific company or cause these days. Anytime someone gets a better offer (money) they're gone. Police officers, don't job shop for 40 years of employment.

Regarding "great responsibility" in the private sector ? It's strictly a monetary responsibility. Cops have a far greater range of responsibility than anyone in the private sector.

If you knew the answer, why ask ? Just to hear yourself speak ?

I can't imagine that you've ever been in such a field. If you had, you would know that those jobs require contracts. An oath is a verbal contract.

Yeah. This whole thread is a chess match and RD just can't compete with your brilliance.


Travis

He is THAT smart.

Travis

He speaks of places that sound as if he's only familiar with residing in a concentration camp. Extorting money ? Does he live in the USA ? Just being funny, as I know he and Penny O' live on LI.

It's like speaking to someone living in a different universe but strangely he knows English.

Not quite. For example, you could theoretically get me away from the company I work for now, but not with money. Even ridiculous amounts of money wouldn't interest me, because there are non-monetary relationships, benefits, and capabilities I have here that I value more highly than money. The way to get me to move would be for my present company to destroy those benefits (by which I don't mean forms of insurance: those aren't particularly great wiht my company, actually) or for another company to offer me better ones.

But I know what you mean. And I don't see a problem with it. Seems to me that if a company wants the loyalty of its employees, it ought to have to make itself worthy of loyalty, rather than just demanding it. My company has, so far.


That's not a positive thing. It means you can't attract good cops away from the jobs they have now, and you can't get rid of bad cops.


Oh, horse-puckey. You only say that because you're a cop.

How often do you hold the lives of more than 350 people in your hands, the way a 747 pilot does every day, frequently more than once a day?

Heck--a lowly airport shuttle driver probably has more responsibility in real terms than you do.

And these are people who actually do real productive work that folks are willing to pay for, of their own free choice. They produce more than they consume.

No, just to hear you speak. I was curious about which dodge you'd take.