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I usually don't follow the threads about diesels since I haven't had any need for one but I ran across an extra clean '05 Ford F250 with a 6.0. Is this one of the dogs or has it been a good engine? 150K miles, exceptionally clean

Also, how about Chev's '05 6.6 diesel?

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That 6.0 engine is THE dog. Those things have kept a lot of diesel repair shops busy. If somebody gifted me with one I wouldn't want it. The '05 DMax is a very good engine. There's really no comparison.

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Originally Posted by Ackman
That 6.0 engine is THE dog. Those things have kept a lot of diesel repair shops busy. If somebody gifted me with one I wouldn't want it. The '05 DMax is a very good engine. There's really no comparison.


I agree as is the '05 Cummins. I am a Cummins guy and I knowingly bought a 2004 6.0 Ford F350. I cannot believe how flipping weak that motor is compared to the Cummins I have had in the past. The worst part is it won't die and I hate to waste stuff.

My entire reason for buying it was that the '04 and the '05 Ford 6.0 Superduty is one of the easier Fords to do the Cummins swap. I wouldn't buy one with the intent of keeping it as is on a bet.

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Ford had a dud with the 6.0. The 05 Dmax was a good engine. Cummins makes the best diesel truck powerplant.


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Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
I usually don't follow the threads about diesels since I haven't had any need for one but I ran across an extra clean '05 Ford F250 with a 6.0. Is this one of the dogs or has it been a good engine? 150K miles, exceptionally clean


Run as quickly and as far away from that engine as you can get.


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Also, how about Chev's '05 6.6 diesel?


Much, Much better engine


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Thanks for the info, guys. I'll abstain from the Ford.


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They also have an '01 Ford F250 with a 7.3 and manual transmission. I haven't seen it yet. 99k miles. What's the word on that engine?


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No flies on the 7.3.


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Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
They also have an '01 Ford F250 with a 7.3 and manual transmission. I haven't seen it yet. 99k miles. What's the word on that engine?


A lot better than the 6.0. Pretty decent engine but to be honest the duramax is better, and I'm not a chevy fan.

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The 7.3 is a good engine but old technology and way down on power compared to newer designs. If you want to actually enjoy driving it....they're clanky clattery noisy things and flatout slow dogs. There's much better.

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Owned an 04 6.0 and drove an 05 for a couple years. I never had any trouble with either, but quite a few folks did.
Biggest problem with the engine is the E.G.R. valve gets dirty and sticks, causing all kinds of other problems. The engine is out of warranty by no, so there is a very simple E.G.R. delete that solves that problem.
Some other folks, mostly with chipped engines, had head bolt/head gasket problems. Pretty unusual on a stock engine.
And for a pretty good percentage of folks you'll get advice from, the Cummins is the be-all end-all of diesel pickups and anything else is trash.
Cummins technology is falling behind the last few years (too many compromises to meet new emissions standards), and it's biggest issue is the truck wrapped around it.
All three make good trucks, it's personal preference.


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After looking at the options, I think I'll stick with a gas engine. I don't need that much towing power and they're too expensive to buy if I don't need one.


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The 6.0 in the Ford is the reason Ford split with Navistar.


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I hear that they fall out of a tree fast

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There have been tons of complaints on them, but there are also LOTS of them on the road.

Find one cheap enough in good shape (they don't hold their value like other Diesels) and you can make them pretty bullet proof.

I read a lot of Diesel forums and they're really not supposed to be a bad motor once a few things are changed.



As far as the negative 7.3 comment, one paper they are down on power compared to a lot of the newer motors but hook a heavy load up to one and you really wouldn't know the difference.


I drive a Cummins 5.9 and an '01 Ford F-350 with a 7.3. With a full load on them there isn't much difference.


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http://www.1ststrike.com/auctions/view/136/vehicles Run from them fords they gave them away this last go around......


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If you don't need to tow heavy all the time I wouldn't be overly scared of a clean 6.0.......get rid of the EGR system and moniter the condition of the oil cooler and it will probably run allota miles

from what I gather , the 6 was actually a pretty good motor in International rigs...it was screwed up in the Fords from too much smog control and too much horsepower

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Don't let anyone fool you. The 7.3 is no slouch. 6.0's can be made into a good reliable motor if you are willing to throw some money at them. They make a bunch of power too. I'd go with the 7.3 though.


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Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
They also have an '01 Ford F250 with a 7.3 and manual transmission. I haven't seen it yet. 99k miles. What's the word on that engine?


7.3 with a manual trans??

droolin.

6.0, no drool.



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Since we're talking about Ford engines - what's the word on their 6.8 V10 engine? I see an '08 F250 here with one. About 82k miles. Do they get any kind of mileage or is it a gas hog?


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