Home Forums Gear Hunting Trucks and Four-Wheel Drives What about Ford's '05 6.0 diesel?

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Just sold my '97 F350 manual. Edge programmer gave it lots of power, but with the manual shifting it was harder to utilize the extra power effectively.

Went with an '06 duramax for towing and the difference in both towing ease and power delivery with the allison trans. is very apparent. Better mileage both towing and empty.

I did test drive and '01 F350 with the 7.3 and a complete Bully dog package, pipes - intake - programmer with and automatic. Truck mileage computer said 18 mpg and man this truck would flat out go.

And it's a Ford!

<insert evil grin here>

Ya it was a ford....priced too high for year and mileage. Forgot to mention the "big" tires and short wife.

Heh!

I'd have bought tickets to watch your Mrs. climb in!

You've got yourself a real dilemma here. Just gonna' have to wring your hands and soul search and work it out with your conscience.

I like to see petunias wilt when I drive by blowing black smoke out the tailpipe

This is why I have a diesel.

There's nothing that requires you to delete the EGR or DPF on that truck, 95% of that year model truck on the road are completely stock and run just fine, yours will do just fine that way also.

Legal and moral are not the same. The American way has always been to question authority, we wouldn't be here if we'd followed all the laws handed down by our British overlords. I don't wear a seatbelt, occasionally drive over the speed limit, drove the other day with a burned out tail light, and used to drink beer when I was under 21 (I'm 43 now). All of those are/were illegal but none are immoral in my opinion.

I have no problems with anyone who deletes the EGR from their privately owned vehicles.

There is this:
Heb 13:17 Obey your leaders and submit to their authority. They keep watch over you as men who must give an account. Obey them so that their work will be a joy, not a burden, for that would be of no advantage to you.

That's true. Most people aren't gear heads and don't mess with their trucks, they don't know the difference. The EGR just recirculates exhaust through the engine. With miles the intake system will build up an astonishing amount of greasy crap. More than you'd ever think possible, but the truck will run ok. That DPF is something else.....it's the one to get rid of if you want immediate results. One friend was getting poor mileage with his '10 Cummins. A new exhaust shedding about 200 lbs of DPF system, along with an Edge tuner, made a big improvement in mileage and power. This was a couple years ago before EFI was available for Cummins.

Yep....you've created a real dilemma for yourself.

"They keep watch over you as men who must give an account" Are you talking about the ones flying around in private jets and traveling in motor cades telling us not to pollute?

The epa regulations on emissions were put in place years ago, before low sulfur diesel was on the menu. It was feel good back then or they would have gone into effect sooner. Most of the requlations as of late are politically driven not need or scientifically based.

Look at the two stroke direct injected motors on snow mobiles or boats and compare them to 4-stroke. lower emissions, better economy and more power, but try and take one into yellowstone park.

Nope. A two stroke will always lose as far as efficiency and emissions. It's sole benefit is power to weight ratio.

As far as quoting the bible, I'll make you a deal. You tell me you want/intend to keep all the bible commands, and I'll stop talking about EGR deletes.

The 6.0 Ford has really gotten a bum rap. THe same engine minus the emissions controls was installed in plenty of school buses without a hiccup. The problems started with Ford and Navistar not properly training techs/ not paying to keep qualified techs enough to stay in the dealerships to work on these trucks. Part 2 is once problems did start to occur, Ford wanted to penny pinch on doing warranty work on the 6.0, so when say a EGR started to stick open, feeding hot exhaust gas back into the engine, causing the cheap headbolts to stretch, casuing blown head gaskets from either towing or hot rodding, Ford only wanted to replace the EGR cooler, and possibly replace the headbolts. Nothing would be done to address the possible antifreeze in the oil, which would wreck the injectors, hpop, and oil cooler. Maybe not right away, but the damage was started. Same way with a leaking egr cooler. Now, the eingine is sucking coolant into the engine, or blowing hot exhaust in the coolant system, causing hot pockets during towing or hot rodding, and the same systems are prone to failure. Given the number of Super Dutys on the road, and you can see why the 6.0 is a 'junk motor'. The early Duramax had similar issues, but GM didn't sell as many trucks, and their warranty really took care of the owner. My neighbor has an '05 with a Edge box and beats the snot out of the truck. He shoved the head gaskets, and GM covered everything.

I have an '05 6.0 and love it. It has been worked on to eliminate the issues the 6.0 had to bring Ford into the era of clean diesels. If you get serious about the 6.0, PM me, I'll point you in the right direction.

Dutch - the quote and rant (by me) is a continuation of a comment by Rock Chuck on obeying leaders. A recognized trait of a good leader is their example.

Two strokes with the direct cylinder injection have come a long way to reduce emissions and increase efficiency. A few years more of R&D will be required.

CNG will probably replace both gas and diesel in this country as the fuel of choice at some point in the future. EGR delete may be a moot point.

the legality of the delete on this truck I just bought might be a moot issue. I think it might have one already done. There's a cable with a blinking light hanging under the dash. It's labeled DPF DELETE. It also has a programer by Hypertech but it's not plugged in. It came with a guide on CD that I haven't looked at yet.
I haven't yet looked at the engine to determine exactly what's there. I haven't dealt with this one before so I don't know what a normal one looks like until I get a good manual.

My apologies to anyone I might have offended by bringing up the legality of an EGR and or DPF delete. I'm certainly not trying to make anyone mad. I'm shopping for info.

Thanks for bringing it up - been kicking around the idea myself. As well as getting a programmer. Never hurts to ask around for pro/con on an idea.