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Does anyone know the value, or how to find the value of a; Griffin & Howe Pre-64 Model 70 in .375 H&H
Made in 1961 or 1962, I believe.
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I purchased a Griffin & Howe Pre-64 Model 70 in .35 Whelen from G&H last year. I paid $5200.00, due to .375 H&H's popularity it may be worth a bit more. My rifle was made in 1961 according to G&H's serial number records.
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Follow these, I'd say between $5000 - 5500. right off the cuff.
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gunswizard Campfire Ranger Registered: 02/21/10 Posts: 1599 I purchased a Griffin & Howe Pre-64 Model 70 in .35 Whelen from G&H last year. I paid $5200.00, due to .375 H&H's popularity it may be worth a bit more. My rifle was made in 1961 according to G&H's serial number records. Follow these, I'd say between $5000 - 5500. right off the cuff. Is there something really special about the "Griffin & Howe" part of this equation ....are they not just pre-64 Win. Model 70's? Sorry, I do not mean to offend...I am just uninformed about the difference between these and just a "pre-64" Win. 70?
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Fair question Sig. Best I can tell is they received favorable publicity as the go to safari rifle which seems to have enhanced their value. I also have a Paul Jaeger from the same era, of equal quality, and it�s worth � as much.
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What does Griffin & Howe do to their pre-64 to drive up the price?
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Many things for accuracy along with their French walnut stock and in many cases their patented scope mounting system.
I have (well Son actually has it now) a 1941 commercial Mauser in 30-06 with the mount and Lyman Alaskan All Weather scope. They valued it at $7500.00 5 years ago. I bought it at a gun show for $300.00 as a "Polish 8mm Mauser with weird scope mount" according to the seller!
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Lousy gun shows! Them guys all have the price jacked way up on their junk!
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What makes them special in my opinion is the quality of workmanship and level of finish, as well as they are a pre-64 (that is special in its own way), only better. My .375 has nice irons, a leather wrapped pad, ebony tip, initial disk and a pretty decent piece of lumber. Other than a bespoke english gun from the era where are you going to find that on a 65 yr old gun? They are a leftover connection to another era that no longer exists. Mine was made in 47 by griffin and how on a new cloverleaf action M70, and still works as good today as it did when it was new. Better in fact with todays bullets. and doing what it was born to do: Value wise I don't think I would let mine go for $5000- where would I find another one to replace it? I might be tempted to buy for $5k-just to have a spare-but I have a bad bad case of gun Acquisition-itis
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Very nice. You're a fortunate man, and FWIW I would not insult you by offering a measly $5K for it!!!
What caliber?
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375h&h Sorry, forgot that- I'll edit my post. 375h&h to me anyways should always command a premium over a more common caliber (as well as it's celebrating it's 100'th birthday this year- so it has added centennial value ) But seriously maybe I am the exception because I use it- but what caliber could be more utilitarian than a .375? I can take it anywhere and do anything with it. What other caliber could I say that about?
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Agreed. I don't have a 375 H&H, but have become very fond of my 375 Ruger since I bought it 2 years ago... it's killed a lot of meat for me since then!
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If you really want to know the value, call Paul Chapman at G&H in Bernardsville, NJ.
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Ohhhh, went over to the dark side, did you! For all intents and purposes the ruger is the same thing- it's just not an h&h for the same sentimental reasons that makes a griffin&howe what they are. I haven't succumbed to the ruger yet, but I have 6 different 375h&h's in various corners around my house-so even my acquisitionitis has a hard time justifying the ruger.
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Yeah, it's only a matter of time until I get me a 375 H&H or two... gottahaveititis!
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What does Griffin & Howe do to their pre-64 to drive up the price?
Thanks Barkoff the only thing I could add to notlim's comments is a three panel checkered bolt. Like I said I also have a Paul Jaeger from approximately the same time and it is worth half as much, although fit and finish certainly seems of equal craftsmanship. I guess to some degree their value was much like the English doubles costing twice as much as they're worth, perception and outstanding marketing practices. I would have to add that should you currently want some unknown smith to finish one off like the G & H's it would likely now cost as much, although that hasn't always been true. It would not surprise me to see the G&Hs increase by about another 50%, and likely only some very old man or uniterested heir will sell at that.
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If you really want to know the value, call Paul Chapman at G&H in Bernardsville, NJ. G&H will tell you to bring it in where they will offer you about 1/2 of what they'd sell it for. Visit the website, they usually have one or two for sale.
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$4,850.
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I believe one of the guys here has a Savage 99 that was customized by G&H.
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