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from all this discussion, it sounds like the Great Predators, that is meat-eaters are going to be redesigned.

i'm thinking it's going from a two-stranded DNA model to a four or even twelve stranded model.

Kind of like Heaven, huh, where He rules totally, but no pets or animals? Maybe the millennium would be a more perfect place?

Rock Chuck, you do realize that the book of Revelation, where I assume you're pulling your millenialist eschatology from, was written for a persecuted church about 1900 years ago, right? It was written as a book of hope to persecuted Christians. The original writer almost certainly didn't record the vision as a way to predict or dictate what will or will not be in the future, but as a promise of God's kingdom as more powerful than the kingdoms of this earth. Like I said earlier, pretty sure we may differ more than a bit in our theological views, but I am thankful that the body of Christ is big enough and God's love is deep enough for all of us to discuss this in a civil manner. Peace be with you.

Well, it does say that Jesus will return and that he will reign for 1000 years here on Earth and that at the end will come the final judgement. That part is in black and white and it hasn't happened yet. It says that Satan will be chained during that time except for a short time at the end when he will be turned loose again. It's for sure that there's never been a time on Earth when Satan hasn't had free reign to work his evil.

God said it and I believe it. The sequence of events before Jesus returns is definitely open to interpretation although only 1 view will prove to be true. The main thing is to be ready if it happens in our lifetimes.

Of course it is, and the millennial reign is a type of heaven on earth.

I also mentioned that when God created the animals of the earth He saw it was good, so what was good for earth may be also be good in heaven.

But most importantly, we can trust Him to provide for our needs, so if we might have the same need for animal companions in heaven as we do on the earth, that need will be provided for. If we don't, from being otherwise fulfilled, it won't matter and we will not miss or be aware of the absence. When we come to that point of trust in Him, nothing else matters.

I find it even more hard to understand a time when we will be changed to incorruptible. A change I will welcome.

Amen.

+1

Amen.

Amen, and thank you.

Ingwe (Sir),
I follow your reasoning and therefor 3 is better than 2. I'm going to be sure and let Val, Jasmine, and Katie know that. Now, if only I could convince my wife that I truly need the 27 I told her I require to make me happy.

Bruno, Lefty, Lizzie et al. better be in heaven if/when I get there. They did nothing wrong to deserve "the other place".

Geno

PS combo gun section please? Travis/dave/David really wants/needs one. It would give me another way to waste my time enjoy myself. Thank you in advance for your consideration.

We just had a 100 pound Lab arrive at the back porch this morning. He was collared and had a good time playing with our Feist after the initial barking and crotch licking.

If he comes back and hangs around I think the cats will kill us in our sleep.

Now to possibly confuse things, to the Lord, a day is as a thousand years (as we know), so if He will rule here a thousand years, that could be almost an eternity? 1000x365x1000 days of Satan in chains? I know that is not what we are taught. HE did say He didn't make our earthly home in vain.

Animals have a sixth sense about the spiritual/supernatural...

Dog say's... Jesus told me steelie is safe... but Ingwe's [bleep]...

The millenium might be a type of heaven, but it won't be heaven itself. Men will still be born and will die. They will still have failing bodies, although they will be much healthier than now. Isaiah says that if a man dies younger than 100, it will be a calamity.
I'm not saying that there won't be animals in heaven. I'm saying that the Bible doesn't say there will be so it's all conjecture.
It's true that God created animals and then said that it was good. However, he also found it necessary to destroy most of them, along with everything else, in the flood.

The massive size of Naoh's ark was to preserve animal life. Afterall, the animals were relatively innocent and it was His human creation he sought to destroy with the exception of Noah and his family. And He didn't destroy everything. Plants regenerated and marine life was not destroyed.

I know the Bible doesn't tell us animal life will exist in heaven or that it won't, and though it may seem I am leaning toward it will, that's not really the case. If I was to guess, I'd guess not, as the Glory of God will be quite sufficient to captivate our attention, although His Mercy and Grace may allow it.

So Ricky and RC, when the Lord returns next, are the Christians then caught up in the rapture, or does that happen after the millennium?

No worries, Ingwe has a protector now...though his pseudonym is 'Satan'...

Nice!!! redemption is at your doorstep...

Kent

Sounds like me, I have three now, and 27 would be just about right, so it wouldnt hurt so much when one passes...