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I hadn't considered that. Definitely a plus. Carry on!
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A slightly off-topic question- Are you more likely to find 300 wby, or 300 WM ammo, in remote parts of, say, Africa?
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I've never been to Africa, but I would shoot .300 H&H in a Weatherby if needed and I would shoot .300 Win Mag if in a real pinch, and although the Win Mag in a Weatherby is not a great practice, it will work if needed.
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I have had 3 different 300magnums, a 30-338, a 300 WM and a now a 300 bee. My favorite was the 30-338. From a reloading standpoint I like the Bee more than the WMag. If I had to pick one it would the 308 Norma mag...
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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The real life test is to look at two or more of the same animals. Each shot with a different 300 Magnum. Shot in the chest at the same distance. Can you tell a difference in outcomes?
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The real life test is to look at two or more of the same animals. Each shot with a different 300 Magnum. Shot in the chest at the same distance. Can you tell a difference in outcomes? Hell no,,,,pass me the good ol 06 please
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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The real life test is to look at two or more of the same animals. Each shot with a different 300 Magnum. Shot in the chest at the same distance. Can you tell a difference in outcomes? Hell no,,,,pass me the good ol 06 please Definitely!
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One other thing. I have no first hand expiereance, but I have heard magnaporting really tames down the muzzle jump. My .338 win mag is magnaported. It jumps like a 30-06. I can shoot a box through it in a teeshirt and my shoulder hardly notices.
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One other thing. I have no first hand expiereance, but I have heard magnaporting really tames down the muzzle jump. My .338 win mag is magnaported. It jumps like a 30-06. I can shoot a box through it in a teeshirt and my shoulder hardly notices. And I hope you pack your ear plugs out hunting...
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One other thing. I have no first hand expiereance, but I have heard magnaporting really tames down the muzzle jump. My .338 win mag is magnaported. It jumps like a 30-06. I can shoot a box through it in a teeshirt and my shoulder hardly notices. And I hope you pack your ear plugs out hunting... Never noticed it to be any louder than my 06 directly behind the muzzle. You don't want to be to the side with out ear protection.
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With regards to recoil. I like the .300 Mags too and for whatever reason have a .300 Win Mag M70 CRF Standard Sporter, A Rem 700 LSS .300 RUM and a .300 Weatherby Ultra Lightweight. All have 26" barrels. The .300 Weatherby is the lightest and for me it is actually the most pleasant to shoot. I think it must be the stock design.
Mike
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Yeah, mine too. My current 300 WM is M 70 Winlite, 26" bll. Believe it or not, it is very easy to shoot. (180 gr bullets) I never notice the recoil when hunting, and that's the most important time. I bought this rifle in 08 and have killed several deer with it. I 'PROBABLY' should not say this but... I have not missed a single shot with it. (so far)
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Ed Brown Damara in .300 Win Mag. Light, accurate and with Swaro Z3, 4-12x50 BT and Outdoorsmans turret set up for 180 gr. NBT/NAB's at 3050 fps, it's very effective. DF
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Thats a nice rig, Dirtfarmer. Here is my favorite rig. A model 70 magnum action in 300 ultra mag. And a couple of other 3 hunreds I have owned. 300SAUM 300 win mag
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This summer, I picked up a M-70 Stainless Classic in .300 RUM. It's the donor action for a .404J build, the parent ctg. to the RUM family. I was careful not to shoot it, following the rule to never shoot a donor. I may have fallen in love with it... DF
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Ed Brown Damara in .300 Win Mag. Light, accurate and with Swaro Z3, 4-12x50 BT and Outdoorsmans turret set up for 180 gr. NBT/NAB's at 3050 fps, it's very effective. DF Wow, that is a very nice set up! What a good rifle to have for just about everything.
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IMHO the difference for big game hunting is that winning the Weatherby Award when that was a big deal was more likely to happen with the Weatherby cartridge in a Weatherby rifle.
Beyond that no practical difference except price and availability of cases.
The Weatherby had a 20 year head start, and a tremendous reputation before the first Winnie came off the assembly line... It was an obvious choice for those who had seen some of the world in the war and wished to travel and hunt far away places... O'Connor and Page both had Weatherby awards before the Winnie was introduced... (R.W. always had a flair for marketing) The Weatherby was the king of the hill, and rightfully so, for some 30 years... But the practicality, and business-like simplicity of the Winnie could not be denied... Rising like cream, to the top of the bottle, the Winchester fast .30 made huge strides, even after being orphaned by the rifle that spawned it... The Winnie is the Labrador retriever of the magnum rifle world. it simply does what a rifle needs to do, with less fuss and bother than any other fast .30... It baffles me a bit to consider that the H&H is so revered by many in the U.S. The Winchester (and the Weatherby) holds the same attraction for most who abide in other parts of the world...
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It baffles me a bit to consider that the H&H is so revered by many in the U.S. The Winchester (and the Weatherby) holds the same attraction for most who abide in other parts of the world...
In the past, all it took for a cartridge to be revered was to have the right writer champion it. (Ok, maybe not all but mostly.)
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I have zero interest in a H&H.
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I have zero interest in a H&H. I don't have one and am not in the market for one. It is a real cool old round, though. DF
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