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Does any body shoot a S&B scope on there hunting rifle ? I really want to try one but I don't know any body that has one. I'm leaning on the S & B or a VX-6 .

Definitely top quality stuff. I was a Schmidt & Bender dealer about a decade ago, and was blown away by their 8x56mm. I think you'll be happy with one of their scopes, but there's nothing magic about them either. Given the money, I'd probably go for a high end Zeiss.

Good to know thanks. I will probably go with a VX-6 just because I like the CDS dials on the Leupolds. The cheapest S & B I can find in Canada is $1500 . We pay way to much for that stuff up here.

We pay waaay too much for S&B down here too. They've gotten totally unreasonable in their pricing. I own a 4-16x50 S&B PM II, but only because I got a smokin' hot deal on it. No way would I pay $3200.00 for that scope, when I could buy a Hensoldt, or 3 Leupold VX6 scopes.

I have several.
And have used them for decades.
What is the application?


dave

I don't want to hijack this but what would be a smoking deal on a PMII 4-16X50? I am trying to set up a long range elk rifle and have a chance to buy one that is like new but have no idea what it would be worth. They look like $3000 or so new online. Over the weekend he offered it to me for $1500 but I just don't know where to start and was actually thinking of offering $1000. I will say this: it looks like one heck of a nice piece of equipment to me. I have a 2.5-10 on .338 and really like it a lot. Sorry for the hijack.

http://www.eurooptic.com/schmidt-bender-4-16x50-pm-ii-riflescope.aspx
and
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=3620030#Post3620030

I'd be concerned its hot.
I have a older one and i'd not sell it for that.
We use ours ever year from 100 to 700 yards.
They have very accurate clicks and have held up well for the past 15 or so years.


dave

I have a couple Zeniths and a Klassic. Excellent optics and have been absolutely bullet proof. I wish S&B would come out with a Zenith in 2.5-10x42mm. Or at least a thicker and bolder reticle for their Summit. And it goes without saying, I think their pricing over the past few years has gotten absolutely ridiculous.

Agreed on pricing.
I'd like to see a 3x12x42 Zenith.
But then im stuck in a FFP world...
Seems to me theres a gap in the Zenith line up.
I was under the impression that eventually the Zeniths would replace the Klassic line up.
..But then I waited for 20 years for the eye relief to go from 3.15 to 3.75.....
Wont hold my breath.

dave

I have a 3-12x42mm Klassic. Nice scope, but has narrow FOV at the lowest magnification accompanied with some tunnel vision.

Like you, I prefer FFP for hunting. I'm pretty much enamored with the Zeiss Victory Diavari 2.5-10x42mm for my hunting scope of choice. And Zeiss goes and discontinues them to push their 50mm scopes.

I think hyper prices on Alpha Euros make the VX-6 a real bargain. Glass is almost as good, the scope is not that heavy and like most Leupolds, is pretty sleek, even for a 30mm.

The VX-6 2-12x42 is worth a look. I really like mine.

DF

I seen some shops advertising a VX-6 3-18x44 but on Leupolds web site they don't even advertise that scope. That would be the one I would pic for a 270 win. The price on that one was $1400 cdn.

I haven't seen one of those. How long is it?

DF

I have several - best scope in the buisness!!

I have a 6 x 42 S+B on a M-70 243 that is on loan to a very very good friend of mine. Over the years I use that model on a number of rifles. Very good glass and it just dose what it suppose to do with out any fuss. They are not cheap nor were they ever were in comparison. There is a lot of good glass to be had these days. Buy what you can afford or what is your spending comfort level is. It saddens me that the fixed 4x S+B is no longer made. Now there is a good hunting sight.

yeah that scope is so bright it didnt need a 50mm...

some good thoughts here

a 3-12x42 zenith would be nice. S&B launches new products at a snails pace. THe Summit while nice, has a thin reticle that doesnt allow you to take advantage of the glass. I was told by the head of S&B USA that the 3-12x42 klassik was their best seller her in the hunting line. wonder why they didnt make a similar zenith based on that alone?

although not a FFP, i kinda wish swaro would make a 2-12x42 Z6, the 2-12x50 is nice but i dont like 50mm bells so i have a 1.7-10x42

I paid 2250.00 for mine...the guy needed to move it. I still think that's too high by about 250.00, but, I also knew I'd never run across one for that price in a month of Sundays if I didn't get it.

I bought it. It's got 34mm Badger rings on it and Butler Creek scope covers. It was mounted and shot but not hunted supposedly. The guy had it on a .308. It is heavy but that won't matter the way I am going to use it. I am going to need to order a manual for it.

If you can believe it, Zeiss actually dropped the price on their sporting version of the 6-24x72 by several hundred dollars. I'm probably one of two guys I know that ever bought one, so maybe the price drop is market-driven.

Give the price of the Zeiss 6-24x72, I doubt the lower price is "market driven" since they have no direct competition for that model and $200.00 will make no difference in the number sold. It's kinda like Bentley dropping their price a few thousand dollars. It's still way out of the reach of most buyers and will never become a volume item.