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Originally Posted by Berettaman
so if I walk in with a rent bill, I can get registered to vote, right? Then, I do not need an ID to vote.

No, as stated before the bill merely shows that the person lives in the precinct. They need a photo ID to prove their identity. A passport works very well for that but a passport doesn't give an address. If the person has a current, valid photo ID showing they live in the precinct they don't need a bill to prove their address

Might an illegal do the same? THey dont know the ramifications. How much voter fraud goes on? Nobody knows for sure, that is the whole point.

If the State or Federal Gov't provides a passport or DL to someone then the proper checks should have been done on a level much higher than that of a local election judge.

And as far as the marriage amendment, it is in other states' constitution is it not? It was Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve.

Yes it is and that's precisely why I'm so proud of Minnesota's rejection of it.


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OK- so let me see if i understand you correctly. You are saying that you shouldnt need to show ID when you vote if you are already registered? Is that correct? Then to register you need a bill or someone to vouch for you etc...

Here is my question. What is to say a person doesnt go into another precint and impersonate another? That is what i dont understand. When i voted early this year i needed to provide an ID or SS# to get my ballot. Why the difference? Nothing really stops me from walking into my polling place and telling them my name is __________ and voting. I dont get the reason why showing an ID to vote is such an issue. I travel for my work alot. I have to show an ID to get on a stinking plane! Isnt voting for our elected representatives a little more important.

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Hey Steve (who isnt attached to Adam),

Great point.

If it is in so many other states Constitution, that sure throws out the theory that it doesnt belong in a Constitution. So it comes right back to either you support the gay lifestyle or you dont. as a Christian, I don't. Period, end of sentence, that is all there is to it. You can try to rationalize it a million ways, but it is still wrong.

So Nsaqam, did you also vote for Obama? Your county sure did.

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You have no more excuses. You have Obama for 8 years. dont even try to blame Bush (which incidently, should be directed at Chris Dodd, not Bush). In Minnesota, you control everything. If this state isnt running smoothly, then you have failed and no excuse holds any water. NO EXCUSES. Of course anyone with a brain knows they will fail and they will then blame everyone but their own incompetent asses.


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Originally Posted by Berettaman
So it comes right back to either you support the gay lifestyle or you dont. as a Christian, I don't.


Until you get realize that there is a third option, and the GOP needs to find it, like fast, this will continue to add to the anchors that weigh down the party. Pro-Choice issues being another.


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I think a Minnesotan once took Seafire's lunch money and he never got over it. wink


You nailed it. He can't get over his hatred for the state, but continues to make no sense when saying how he hated how liberal MN is so he moved to Oregon. I don't understand, but stopped trying.

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Originally Posted by Seafire


a big percentage didn't vote for SamboBama in Southern Oregon, I'll guarantee ya that...



A big percentage of folks that don't live in Mlps/St. Paul didn't vote for Obama either, but you can't seem to understand that, or won't because you don't live here.

It's not that I'm standing up for MN as much as getting a chuckle out of the fact that you refuse to see your hippocracy in the crap you write about MN being so liberal, but not Oregon? crazy

It happened almost 20 years ago...get over it.


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hypocrisy is everywhere around here. The inability to see it says a lot about what happened on Tuesday.


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I don't live in MN but am there a lot. Having seen all of the signs in peoples' yards for the past several months, I appreciate the common sense outcome of the marriage amendment.

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Yep, excellent [bleep] tosser. laugh



I have to say, I just love it when [bleep] are accurately portrayed in a movie. It just doesn't happen often enough. grin


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Originally Posted by tzone
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a big percentage didn't vote for SamboBama in Southern Oregon, I'll guarantee ya that...



A big percentage of folks that don't live in Mlps/St. Paul didn't vote for Obama either, but you can't seem to understand that, or won't because you don't live here.

It's not that I'm standing up for MN as much as getting a chuckle out of the fact that you refuse to see your hippocracy in the crap you write about MN being so liberal, but not Oregon? crazy

It happened almost 20 years ago...get over it.


Yeah, I give up as well....you want to have MN, you can keep it..you want the City Of Potland, that destroys Oregon.. you can keep that... Hippo cracy?

20 yrs ago.. I'll never get over Hennepin County and their BS..they raped my life more than enough..[bleep]'em..


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Originally Posted by BrentD
hypocrisy is everywhere around here. The inability to see it says a lot about what happened on Tuesday.


I've been guilty of it myself, but don't go out of my way on a subject to do so.


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You (and your ilk)are the problem with this country. History repeats itself once again. Bread and circuses....


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I guess we are talking 2 different things Brent. I will not compromise my beliefs. I am not going to turn my back on my Christian beliefs in order to get someone elected. I dont think a person should compromise on their morals. Maybe you do, and if so, that is your personal decision.

Now, would it benefit the Republicans to temper some of their stances....maybe so. But maybe just putting up the right candidate and being more aggressive would work as well. In fact, there are lots of things that would work before compromising ones beliefs.


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Originally Posted by Berettaman
I guess we are talking 2 different things Brent. I will not compromise my beliefs. I am not going to turn my back on my Christian beliefs in order to get someone elected. I dont think a person should compromise on their morals. Maybe you do, and if so, that is your personal decision.

Now, would it benefit the Republicans to temper some of their stances....maybe so. But maybe just putting up the right candidate and being more aggressive would work as well. In fact, there are lots of things that would work before compromising ones beliefs.
While I agree - we will be taking all our vaunted and righteous 'beliefs' with us to the Gulag...

Tyranny is now gonna be the rule.. Dems have shown they have no morals, no beliefs of right/wrong - no, their only belief is socialist distribution from those who earned it to those who have not..

They're the scumbags of the earth - and they're in power; now and for good it seems..


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So it comes right back to either you support the gay lifestyle or you dont. as a Christian, I don't.


Until you get realize that there is a third option, and the GOP needs to find it, like fast, this will continue to add to the anchors that weigh down the party. Pro-Choice issues being another.


Ther repubs need to stop talking about issues at all. This election and presumably more are about demographics:

http://www.barackobama.com/african-americans

http://www.barackobama.com/latinos

http://www.barackobama.com/lgbt?source=primary-nav

http://www.barackobama.com/asian-americans-pacific-islanders?source=groups-hub

etc, etc



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Originally Posted by Berettaman
I guess we are talking 2 different things Brent. I will not compromise my beliefs. I am not going to turn my back on my Christian beliefs in order to get someone elected. I dont think a person should compromise on their morals. Maybe you do, and if so, that is your personal decision.


Never said you should compromise your beliefs. But where they are your personal Christian values and morality specifically, they need to remain personal and not be impinged upon others.

Republicans are supposed to be about individual freedom and keeping big brother out of one's personal life. That isn't happening with the GOP today.


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