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my heart breaks for those innocent families........

There is a place for sale just down the road from me. My carry permit took eight days from the time I applied until it came in the mail but that is because there was a three day weekend in the middle.

I can carry almost everywhere even schools but just for drop off or pick up, not in the building and every bar that that does not have the "no one under 21" sign on the door. We can even use hollow points.

I do fill sorry for those who live in states like NJ.

...as do mine and my wife's. Tears keep welling up for those innocents.

This is truly a sad day., our hearts go out to the parents.

Sad also is that it will be turned into a political ploy and used for some sort of gun control.

I'm betting we will find out, eventually, that this guy has some mental "issues' that someone knew about and would not or could not talk about.

Did you hear the President's comments??

It's being reported now that all the firearms recovered so far were traced and show they are legally registered to the mother of the shooter and not the shooter himself.

It is 100% due to liberal progressives who delay the prcess. I have been told this by LEO.

3 weeks to a month in one town, close to a year in another. 2A is near dead in NJ.

That too is illegal. He is not a CT resident, he cannot be in possession of her guns without her there.

Guess that law didnt help either.

So every ninety days you have to have a mental evaluation?

You can bet that slob of a governor will jump on Obama's bandwagon.

If you want to apply for another permit.

No one mentally evaluates you 1 on 1. they apparantly do it via calling your employer, your references, and running your prints.

No. As I understand it, you have 90 days to use a permit once it is issued. After that period of time, you must start the process over again to obtain another permit.

Obviously not since according to recent news reports it sounds like that he probably took his mother out first.

truthfully for other than the boy scouts amongst us, how many of you guys if they outlawed guns forever tomorrow and you turned yours in.

and THEN decided you wanted to obtain one illegally, how long or how many generations do you think it would take before it would be extremely unlikelt to be able to do so?


after 9-11 TSA seemed to be the answer we got, though I think it's folly

I'm inclined the answer we get to these mass shootings may not make much practical sense either.

That is correct. You can also appeal for a 1 time extension of the 90 day permit for an additional 90 days. It is up to the Police Chiefs discretion as to whether they want to grant the extension or if you have to reapply for a new permit (which is good for 90 days).

Here's another angle on the mental illness issue.

Not only do these incidents and the reporting thereof lead to an overestimation of mental illness as a factor in violent behavior, but as a corollary it is overused as an excuse.

Very few forms of mental illness "make" people do things. The vast majority of even seriously mentally ill persons are moral and capable of responsible behavior, however impaired they may be. It follows that most can and should be held accountable.

To a large extent I blame defense attorneys for this. I realize that they have an ethical obligation to vigorously defend their clients, but some stop at nothing to twist and spin in order to create doubt, even at the expense of truth. Also blame the "experts" who whore themselves out. Same with the "off his meds" argument. True, it can and does happen, but far less frequently than most believe. Stopping meds usually just allows the symptoms to come back, it doesn't create new behavior. There was a case in Iowa where a farmer shot his neighbor in cold blood in a classic case of land greed. The defense tried to claim self defense, and argued that the victim had been treated for depression, and was "off his meds." Blame the dead victim. Total BS.

Believe it or not, the strongest predictor of violence is being a young male, but nobody would claim that most young males are violent, or try to ban gun ownership for those under 40.

I also believe, but can't prove, that there are fads and fashions in how people act out their pathology, and that there is an element of copycat in these mass shootings. I don't know how you can predict which unstable individuals are going to be influenced to such an extreme by external factors.

Paul

But you're so [bleep] brite you are going to tell us. LOL

Simply unbelievable the amount of armchair quarterbacking and pontificating about irrelevant or unimportant sheit...

I have friends that have lost young children in accidents or to disease... their lives shattered, and in at least one case never recovered emotionally. I cannot think of a greater loss, a greater shock or a more difficult trauma from which to recover.

Our thoughts and prayers should be to the victims, their families, their community, and to our country which has suffered another grievous tragedy and unimaginable heart-wrenching loss.

There will be a time for discussion about policy and politics.... this is not it.

Well finally got the good news all the kids we know that attended the school are safe.

I haveget never tried to be an internet tough guy, just a live and let live south Alabama country boy. Having said that, I would literally give my left testicle to get this guy alone in a room for 5 min. If he wouldn't have taken the cowards way out.

Prayers sent

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