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Re: TLee's project, "FrankenStevens" crossfireoops #7209813 12/20/12
Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 73,096 Punta Gorda, FL T LEE Campfire Kahuna
T LEE Campfire Kahuna Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 73,096 Punta Gorda, FL	Well I paid ten bucks for the Stevens............ George Orwell was a Prophet, not a novelist. Read 1984 and then look around you! Old cat turd! "Some men just need killing." ~ Clay Allison. I am too old to fight but I can still pull a trigger. ~ Me

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Re: TLee's project, "FrankenStevens" T LEE #7211585 12/21/12
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 53,303 Southeastern AZ crossfireoops OP Campfire Kahuna
OP crossfireoops Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 53,303 Southeastern AZ	Yesterday evening, I lacked decent LIGHT in the shop, so I decided to wait on fitting those tangs. I did "tweeak' the top tang just a whisker (cold, in a stout vice),....adding another laminate should not be required.Decided to get this "open Top" project near complete. Threaded a piece of 3/16 O1 drill rod to 10-32 Than set up to shave it down to .160" (The spring chosen being of .162" I.D.) I've had this traveling steady forever, it came with the lathe. I do believe this is the first time I've used it. It works well, too. A "tophat" brass bushing, .162" ID X .220" OD was spooled up, and dropped down into the rear of the housing, and another straight brass 'rider made up to ride on the '"Ejector Nut". The pieces than assembled All that remains are some final fitting and polishing, case hardening the ejector nut, and making up a proper retention screw (maybe I should leave the Hex nut spacer to give the piece a "tactical" look /) I reckon I'll file in a little "island" on the front face of the ejector nut, and checker it 40 LPI, prior to hardening that part. A recess to accept a little brass "button" will be drilled into it, too,.......so there's no steel to steel contact 'tween it and the barrel. That new 11.5 MM cutter that Bristoe fired over will be making chips later today, I reckon..... GTC Member, Clan of the Border Rats -- “Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it.”- Mark Twain

Re: TLee's project, "FrankenStevens" crossfireoops #7211710 12/21/12
Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,896 Nebraska FlyboyFlem Campfire Outfitter
FlyboyFlem Campfire Outfitter Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,896 Nebraska	Great project guys and very informative,,can't wait to see the final results.. You better be afraid of a ghost!! "Woody you were baptized in prop wash"..crossfireoops Woody

Re: TLee's project, "FrankenStevens" crossfireoops #7212198 12/21/12
Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 73,096 Punta Gorda, FL T LEE Campfire Kahuna
T LEE Campfire Kahuna Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 73,096 Punta Gorda, FL	SUPERCALIFRAGILISTIC Greg! George Orwell was a Prophet, not a novelist. Read 1984 and then look around you! Old cat turd! "Some men just need killing." ~ Clay Allison. I am too old to fight but I can still pull a trigger. ~ Me

Re: TLee's project, "FrankenStevens" T LEE #7213569 12/21/12
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 53,303 Southeastern AZ crossfireoops OP Campfire Kahuna
OP crossfireoops Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 53,303 Southeastern AZ	Per plan, I caught the late afternoon light just right on the Mill Table, colleted, aligned and spun up the SUPERBLY sharp (thanks again, Bristoe !) 2 flute 11.5 Cutter. No "puzzy footing" around here, either, after "decking" the lower tang insert/repair piece, I grabbed the whole 1/4" nominal depth in one cut. As one can see, I used some very sophisticated fixturing and clamping technology. One centered pass was made after the initial one, and than the WIDTH was checked. a .009" offset on either side brought the cut out to a full desired width (wtf THAT is, I forget,..... .465", maybe ?) Looks like the .010" offset will hit TIGHT tang width The Buttstock was flopped over, and aligned with the central axis of this Galaxy, and the same basic stunt repeated, working off of calibrated eyeball, a shot of Schnapps, chased with a Moose Drool, and an invocation to the God of Chips and Sawdust. This was the initial result, a hard push fit, no hammering. Looks like my conservative approach left a little extra thickness between the tangs. Better that than a sloppy rattle, I says. I decided to run the job past "Quality Control", she can be a real Beotch about "missed print" sometimes. I doin't think she liked being bothered with this sorta' thing, this late in the day before a long weekend. Thankfully, she signed off on it, OKAY,.....at this point, the thing needs a fair bit of material removed from the tang slots, on the horizontal plane, e.g. the tapered horizontal mortise needs to be thinned. However, on the VERTICAL plane,the tang cuts are PERFECT,.....well aligned, and the desired .465" (or whatever) Rather than farting around trying to "Re-Index", FAIL, and mess up those somewhat EASILY obtained slots,....I drug out a .500" dovetail cutter, and relieved the CRAP out of the bottom of the tang slots, right on my original "Zero" on the Y axis. A little more room, in a critical area now exists for the minimal amount of acra-glas that will be used for the finish bed, with good "Wood to metal Fit" demonstrated topside, where it counts. [img]http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b115/robbinmyers/Tcut9.jpg[/img] At this point, it's time to vacuum off the Mill, .....call it a day. The frame, at this point needs to be finish inletted perhaps .100" further aft,.....and that will be accomplished with sharp hand tools and bedding black. [img]http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b115/robbinmyers/Tcut11.jpg[/img] [img]http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b115/robbinmyers/Tcut10.jpg[/img] Last edited by crossfireoops; 12/21/12. Member, Clan of the Border Rats -- “Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it.”- Mark Twain

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Re: TLee's project, "FrankenStevens" crossfireoops #7213602 12/21/12
Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 73,096 Punta Gorda, FL T LEE Campfire Kahuna
T LEE Campfire Kahuna Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 73,096 Punta Gorda, FL	Beautiful Gregg and I am much relieved to see Gracie smiling, I know that is the supreme seal of approval from a discriminating connoisseur of fine workmanship. Bristoe, THANK YOU for your generous contribution as well Sir. BTW Greg "You took it apart"? That fine redneck bushing/helicoil and all!!!! George Orwell was a Prophet, not a novelist. Read 1984 and then look around you! Old cat turd! "Some men just need killing." ~ Clay Allison. I am too old to fight but I can still pull a trigger. ~ Me

Re: TLee's project, "FrankenStevens" T LEE #7213736 12/21/12
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 53,303 Southeastern AZ crossfireoops OP Campfire Kahuna
OP crossfireoops Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 53,303 Southeastern AZ	As you well know,.....there's a SUBSTANTIAL amount of material to excavate in the lower quadrant,.......clearance for the mainspring, and such. Re; The Bush / Helicoil,and loose link,.....are you gonna handle alla' that precision on your end ? Nothing really that bad going on there,...everything's eminently repairable. Other Q:,......Had you already loosened all of the fasteners, or was the ease experienced in so doing attributable to the smelly snake oil you soaked the thing with ? Neat project, ......I'm thinking that the Wood is WAY older than the frame,.....and it's kinda' neat marrying up material from different generations / eras. GTC Member, Clan of the Border Rats -- “Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it.”- Mark Twain

Re: TLee's project, "FrankenStevens" T LEE #7213746 12/21/12
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 79,321 Likes: 2 B Bristoe Campfire Oracle
Bristoe Campfire Oracle B Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 79,321 Likes: 2	Great pics of great work. I also get a big kick out of your dog,...definitely a keeper.

Re: TLee's project, "FrankenStevens" Bristoe #7213765 12/21/12
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 53,303 Southeastern AZ crossfireoops OP Campfire Kahuna
OP crossfireoops Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 53,303 Southeastern AZ	Quote definitely a keeper. She cracks me up, .....on a daily, repeatable basis. ....getting more photogenic, less camera shy, too. Once she detects a playful cheerful tone, she starts flashin' dem' ivories. GTC Member, Clan of the Border Rats -- “Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it.”- Mark Twain

Re: TLee's project, "FrankenStevens" crossfireoops #7213918 12/21/12
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 56,212 Likes: 22 In the Swamps DigitalDan Campfire Kahuna
DigitalDan Campfire Kahuna Joined: May 2004 Posts: 56,212 Likes: 22 In the Swamps	She appears to show good judgement and working knowledge of American acronyms. I am..........disturbed. Concerning the difference between man and the jackass: some observers hold that there isn't any. But this wrongs the jackass. -Twain

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Re: TLee's project, "FrankenStevens" DigitalDan #7213952 12/21/12
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 52,680 North of Liberalism in Wyoming eh76 Campfire Kahuna
eh76 Campfire Kahuna Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 52,680 North of Liberalism in Wyoming	keep the pics coming Greg! Liberalism is a mental disorder that leads to social disease.

Re: TLee's project, "FrankenStevens" crossfireoops #7214936 12/22/12
Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 73,096 Punta Gorda, FL T LEE Campfire Kahuna
T LEE Campfire Kahuna Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 73,096 Punta Gorda, FL	Do what ever ya want Greg, I was actually gonna us it AS IS till if and when it broke, then would see about doing some rebuilding. That is the reason I never took it apart, the screws were pretty tight before the dunk in said "snake oil". If you want I can send the barrel and some money. George Orwell was a Prophet, not a novelist. Read 1984 and then look around you! Old cat turd! "Some men just need killing." ~ Clay Allison. I am too old to fight but I can still pull a trigger. ~ Me

Re: TLee's project, "FrankenStevens" T LEE #7215041 12/22/12
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 53,303 Southeastern AZ crossfireoops OP Campfire Kahuna
OP crossfireoops Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 53,303 Southeastern AZ	Terry, PM sent. The wood fitting is a "Campfire Christmas Gift",.....your money's no good here. Yours in abiding curmudgeonry, GTC Member, Clan of the Border Rats -- “Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it.”- Mark Twain

Re: TLee's project, "FrankenStevens" crossfireoops #7215064 12/22/12
Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 73,096 Punta Gorda, FL T LEE Campfire Kahuna
T LEE Campfire Kahuna Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 73,096 Punta Gorda, FL	MEANER! I was just kidding Greg, I forgot the smilie, my bad. George Orwell was a Prophet, not a novelist. Read 1984 and then look around you! Old cat turd! "Some men just need killing." ~ Clay Allison. I am too old to fight but I can still pull a trigger. ~ Me

Re: TLee's project, "FrankenStevens" T LEE #7215199 12/22/12
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 53,303 Southeastern AZ crossfireoops OP Campfire Kahuna
OP crossfireoops Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 53,303 Southeastern AZ	well, it didn't LOOK like some of the screws had been touched in a very long time. The gorilla pizz WORKED,...they all freed up with minimal (if any) effort. I guess anything that SMELLS that rank would have to work, in order to sell . Later, GTC Member, Clan of the Border Rats -- “Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it.”- Mark Twain

Re: TLee's project, "FrankenStevens" crossfireoops #7215268 12/22/12
Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 73,096 Punta Gorda, FL T LEE Campfire Kahuna
T LEE Campfire Kahuna Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 73,096 Punta Gorda, FL	It be reasonable in price and since it works as a fair bore cleaner/lube I have found it to be a decent penetrate on stubborn parts. I have some odds & ends of other internal pieces parts, some good files & stones and a small hobby gas welding rig. That and access to Carl's shop, I think I can get by. The wood work is however something I was never any good at, deemed in high school wood shop as a "World Class Wood Butcher". Carl has a combo mill-lathe for doing some more precision metal work. He is the young man that I turned my "practice" over to when he came to town, a really talented gunsmith and nice young man that is showing potential of becoming a great curmudgeon as the only fool he suffers is me! Gotta get the belt sander cleaned up and put on a new 60 grit belt for the finish work on that stock! George Orwell was a Prophet, not a novelist. Read 1984 and then look around you! Old cat turd! "Some men just need killing." ~ Clay Allison. I am too old to fight but I can still pull a trigger. ~ Me

Re: TLee's project, "FrankenStevens" T LEE #7216456 12/22/12
Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 5,516 Between the Treasure and Magic A Akbob5 Campfire Tracker
Akbob5 Campfire Tracker A Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 5,516 Between the Treasure and Magic	Gentleman, Thanks so much for sharing the progress of your projects with The Campfire. Can't tell you how much I've enjoyed it. Forgive me for mixing thoughts and threads, but can't help but think that some of the video-playing youth are missing a lot of opportunities for mentoring. Happy holidays to you all! Bob Bob Enjoy life now -- it has an expiration date. ~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~

Re: TLee's project, "FrankenStevens" T LEE #7216758 12/22/12
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 53,303 Southeastern AZ crossfireoops OP Campfire Kahuna
OP crossfireoops Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 53,303 Southeastern AZ	Quote Gotta get the belt sander cleaned up and put on a new 60 grit belt for the finish work on that stock! smile smile smile You are a sick, demented old pervert, for even THINKING that, .....much less putting it out here to torment me with. OK,....I'm gonna' fire up the Jonsered, and a $29.00 Dremel Tool, and FINISH the inletting, if that's the direction this has to go. I swear, ya' just can't get any respect. Member, Clan of the Border Rats -- “Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it.”- Mark Twain

Re: TLee's project, "FrankenStevens" crossfireoops #7216768 12/22/12
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 56,212 Likes: 22 In the Swamps DigitalDan Campfire Kahuna
DigitalDan Campfire Kahuna Joined: May 2004 Posts: 56,212 Likes: 22 In the Swamps	What's wrong with Dremels? I am..........disturbed. Concerning the difference between man and the jackass: some observers hold that there isn't any. But this wrongs the jackass. -Twain

Re: TLee's project, "FrankenStevens" Akbob5 #7216793 12/22/12
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 53,303 Southeastern AZ crossfireoops OP Campfire Kahuna
OP crossfireoops Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 53,303 Southeastern AZ	Originally Posted by Akbob5 Gentleman, Thanks so much for sharing the progress of your projects with The Campfire. Can't tell you how much I've enjoyed it. Forgive me for mixing thoughts and threads, but can't help but think that some of the video-playing youth are missing a lot of opportunities for mentoring. Happy holidays to you all! Bob Bob,......first light saw me chasing parts, for projects on the go, and forthcoming. Than delivered some quality home grown Garlic to my lady barbers. Than to the Lion's club flea market,....found some cordage ( 35' of 2500 lb Nylon Flat Braid), and some tree wrap. Scored 12 cans of ground marking paint for the range ( $10.00) Dashed home to meet a guy in from out of town, and get his machining project lined out. A city councilman called , and showed up with a Cast Iron exhaust repair job, which got turned right around (it's probably back on the car by now). While we were pre-heating the prepped iron,....a Young fella whose building his first born's first bike showed up with a custom triple tree job,....he'll be back tomorrow for some brainstorming, Than I tried to repair a=n almost functional , collector grade Colt Lightning. Jeez I HATE those things,.... Somewhere along the line, I lowered the little "Bug" generator we use at the range off the table, and fired it up after a complete service. This would subtend to a more or less NORMAL day around here. No gripe or whine purveyed ,.....I LIKE being this busy. I am 66 years young,.......WTF are the younger folks that are going to pick up this trades legacy dittos, Mister GTC Member, Clan of the Border Rats -- “Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it.”- Mark Twain

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