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Jeeze just heard on the radio that since this big fracus erupted that the NRA has seen a "spike" of new members numbering a hundred thousand.
A hundred thousand?
Damn that seems small to me.
Are people really that strapped for cash, or are they just lazy?
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lazy and stupid............
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Lazy...I work with several guys that are not NRA members even though they only own "assault" type weapons. They really want to keep thier stuff but will not join. I can't even guilt them into joining.
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Lazy...I work with several guys that are not NRA members even though they only own "assault" type weapons. They really want to keep thier stuff but will not join. I can't even guilt them into joining.
Dink Maybe they can use them to shoot themselves in the foot.
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Lots of people just want to let the rich pay for it and get the free ride.
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Lazy...I work with several guys that are not NRA members even though they only own "assault" type weapons. They really want to keep thier stuff but will not join. I can't even guilt them into joining.
Dink Totally amazes me, the number of people like this in our country. They will be the ones doing the most bitching when they lose their guns.
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I received my renewal notice in the mail the other day. Just tried to renew online and it seems as if their site is overloaded. So maybe people are waking up. I hope that is the case.
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80 million gun owners 4 million members and with all that's going on only 100,000 more pony up That's pitiful!
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and whats even more pitiful is how many didnt care enough to
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80 million gun owners 4 million members and with all that's going on only 100,000 more pony up That's pitiful! Pitiful indeed. We're screwed.
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i just joined up today and i'm not even american! Thank you for the support! What are ya?
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Unbelievable. I tell fellow hunters and gun owners to join and get the response, "yeah, I need too". Their tone and body language tells me they won't. I tell them don't come bit*hing when you are driving down to the police station to turn them in.
The one that also gets my blood boiling is when hunters say, the "assault weapons" ban doesn't really affect me because I only own shotguns and hunting rifles.
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Maybe gun owners just accept the blame for these shootings. After all, the media tells em to.
Even though the truth is gun free zones and some evil people caused this; they are still willing to be used as scapegoats?
No outrage, no pushing back, no memberships to further their cause...just sheep ready to take it up the azz.
Son of a liberal: " What did you do in the War On Terror, Daddy?"
Liberal father: " I fought the Americans, along with all the other liberals."
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An oldy but a goody 
Son of a liberal: " What did you do in the War On Terror, Daddy?"
Liberal father: " I fought the Americans, along with all the other liberals."
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People are [bleep] for the most part. Dad told me to never depend on them to back you when you take the charge, because they will not. Seen it time and again, I'm only happy that I'm not those stupid slugs.
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i just joined up today and i'm not even american! Thank you sir!
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gt, Good points. Read how the Nazi's chipped away, one thing/group at a time, until they had the whole populating under their control. They divided and conquered. Does that ring a bell...? If the Jewish people had not been so passive and trusting, but had turned into hard core, gun toting street fighters, things may have been different. At least they would have gone down at great expense to the regime, not herded like cattle into gas chambers. Now, to those who don't seem to learn from history...  DF
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i just joined up today and i'm not even american! Thank you from my wife and I who have been Life Members for over 30 years.
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wasn't that over the past 18 days?
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In addition to being "Gun Appreciation Day", January 19th should be "NRA Appreciation Day". It's not like there's lots of ammo around to spend your money on. Take $25, and either join the NRA or, if already a member, donate that much to the NRA-ILA.
If millions of folks can go to Chick-Fil-A to buy a sandwich, surely a few hundred thousand could join/donate in one day to support the NRA. There's absolutely no reason why the NRA shouldn't add a million members by the end of this month if people really CARE about their rights.
I have little hope for this nation as it stands. You think people are going to fight and die for their Constitutional rights?? Hell, we can't even get them to spend $25 a year and endure a few phone/mail solicitations for an organization that does the fighting for them. Truly pathetic and inexcusable......
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Most people in the L48 are already so enslaved that they think they're free.
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How about another "shot heard round the world" on April 18th? Maybe fireworks for the suburbanites, but you get the picture.
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I let my membership lapse last year, but wendsday is payday and im signing me and my boy both up.
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i just joined up today and i'm not even american! Thank You.
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I renewed mine and joined the wife up.
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I have bought memberships for my wife,mother,sister and two friends since Christmas. If the 100,000 number is correct, we are screwed. The NRA is where we should be spending our money right now, not on $2500 DSA's, or $75 P-Mags.
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The left is demonizing the NRA. I know guys that won't join because they don't want their name on the rolls because they think that the gov has the list of members and will come after NRA members first. I tell them the gov has the name and address of everyone that has ever bought a gun or viewed a gun site on the internet or ever subscribed to a gun magazine.
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Create fear is what the left and the gov does to keep us in line.
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Thats what I thought too, 100,000 is pretty weak. Guess ill have to guilt trip some other folks now. Where are all the TV commercials for the NRA? They need to start pushing for members.
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i just joined up today and i'm not even american! I thank you as well! I gave lifetime memberships to my wife and daughter for Christmas this year. My Mother-in-law and her husband joined the NRA at a gunshow last month. They weren't even gunowners until the threat of a "ban" came out. Her husband decided he needed to own a Berretta 92 and a few high capacity magazines for it.
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typical MSM reporting, 100,000 every 2 days maybe.
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I just ponied up 3 years worth of dues. My first time joining NRA.
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Are people really that strapped for cash, or are they just lazy?
They are [bleep] a$$holes. Especially the ones that ran out and bought ARs.
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Jeeze just heard on the radio that since this big fracus erupted that the NRA has seen a "spike" of new members numbering a hundred thousand.
A hundred thousand?
Damn that seems small to me.
Are people really that strapped for cash, or are they just lazy? Keep in mind that 100,000 has been just over the last MONTH.. Let's see how many they acquire by this time next year..
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By this time next year may be too late
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I am ashamed to admit that I haven't joined until now. But I just did
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I extended my membership for three years. Should have made it a life membership.
Beware of thieves, scammers and dishonest members on the "Fire" classifieds. Ya there is a thief here too. Whatever!!
They're all around the CampFire and everywhere.
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Only 5% of gun owners are members .....seems the left has more conviction than that
Gun owners will scream and cry after the milk has been spilt .... good luck getting it back in the bottle as the left will lap it up as soon as it hits the ground!
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If you do the math, that was over 3340/day.. Don't know how many phone calls the NRA can answer per day.. I also don't know if calls are taken on weekends.
Plus, no mention to date of how much they've taken in just in donations from current members.
IF the current flurry of activity continues they'll have another 400,000 by April..
Yes, there should be 40 million members - but as one poster said above - too many gun owners are lazy and think any new law won't affect them. I've got a couple shirttail relatives who think that way.. I never stop trying to show them the light..
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The owner of this website (Rick Bin?) should require a NRA membership to join. Period. Even the homepage to my shooting range has a link to join.
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Guilty as charged, no excuses.
Did just join about 5 minutes ago. Life member(once paid up), easy to do with their EPL.
"If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go wherever they went." -Will Rogers
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If you do the math, that was over 3340/day.. Don't know how many phone calls the NRA can answer per day.. I also don't know if calls are taken on weekends.
Plus, no mention to date of how much they've taken in just in donations from current members.
IF the current flurry of activity continues they'll have another 400,000 by April..
Yes, there should be 40 million members - but as one poster said above - too many gun owners are lazy and think any new law won't affect them. I've got a couple shirttail relatives who think that way.. I never stop trying to show them the light.. What I am hearing is that the NRA is overloaded with new memberships and it will take awhile for processing. (Newser) 1/10/13 � The Sandy Hook shooting has been good for business for the NRA. In the last 18 days, the group has signed up more than 100,000 new members, it told Politico today. That bumped its overall membership from 4.1 million to 4.2 million. "Our goal is to get to 5 million before this debate is over," the group said. What's more, the powerful lobby says it doesn't expect much to come of its meeting with Joe Biden on ways to reduce gun violence. "We are willing to talk," an official said. But he says the group is hearing from politicians and "real Americans all over the country that are hoping the NRA is not going to compromise on any of the principles of the Second Amendment."
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“In Trump We Trust.” Right????
SOMEBODY please tell TRH that Netanyahu NEVER said "Once we squeeze all we can out of the United States, it can dry up and blow away."
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Joining the NRA is the least that a gun owner can do to support Constitutional gun rights.
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The owner of this website (Rick Bin?) should require a NRA membership to join. Period. Even the homepage to my shooting range has a link to join.
I don�t think we should filter out Campfire gun owners who have a beef with the NRA. They have their own reasons not to join. We should however, beat them over the head with old musket barrels until they see the light. Explain to them how they are wrong and how important numbers are in the battle. Their perceived problems with the NRA are nothing compared with their new problems if we lose. Join any other gun group you like. Every little bit helps. But the NRA is the big grizzly in this fight.
Leo of the Land of Dyr
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I MISS SARAH
“In Trump We Trust.” Right????
SOMEBODY please tell TRH that Netanyahu NEVER said "Once we squeeze all we can out of the United States, it can dry up and blow away."
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Just sent them another 50 bucks. Might as well pick up the slack for some dead beat gun owner.
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Just sent them another 50 bucks. Might as well pick up the slack for some dead beat gun owner. Did the same this morning. If you don't want to be a member, the least you can do is send some money to the NRA-ILA (their lobbying arm). They'll be the ones lobbying Congress to make sure no garbage comes through the legislative side. If I had a gun store/business, not only would I do the "add-a-buck" program for NRA like Brownell's/Midway, I'd declare this a "gun owner emergency" and REQUIRE you to add a buck or more before I'd sell you anything.
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Just sent them another 50 bucks. Might as well pick up the slack for some dead beat gun owner. Did the same this morning. If you don't want to be a member, the least you can do is send some money to the NRA-ILA (their lobbying arm). They'll be the ones lobbying Congress to make sure no garbage comes through the legislative side. If I had a gun store/business, not only would I do the "add-a-buck" program for NRA like Brownell's/Midway, I'd declare this a "gun owner emergency" and REQUIRE you to add a buck or more before I'd sell you anything. Or Donate to the SAF. I donate, they send me a thank you letter and don't bother me till I decide to donate again witch will be in February.
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The NRA is a long way from being ideal in how they are run & who who the main players are, but aside from the 2nd Amendment Foundation, they are the best we've got.
However, LaPierre is totally ineffective as a spokesperson & there has not really be anyone really capable there since Charlton Heston.
The NRA needs a charismatic & popular spokesman to get the country & especially the marginal gun owners, on board & LaPierre is simply not that person, though he appears sincere & I believe he truly means well.
All of us gun looney's are not who he needs to appeal to, it's the other 75 million or so gun owners that we need on board & I just don't see LaPierre being able to get much movement there.
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If you do the math, that was over 3340/day.. Don't know how many phone calls the NRA can answer per day.. I also don't know if calls are taken on weekends.
Plus, no mention to date of how much they've taken in just in donations from current members.
IF the current flurry of activity continues they'll have another 400,000 by April..
Yes, there should be 40 million members - but as one poster said above - too many gun owners are lazy and think any new law won't affect them. I've got a couple shirttail relatives who think that way.. I never stop trying to show them the light.. I don't understand all the complaining, I thought signing another 100,000+ in less than a month was pretty damned good.
That's ok, I'll ass shoot a dink.
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We should be able to double our membership if everyone that can afford a gift membership or TEN would sign up their family and friends that can't afford it or have yet to realize the benefit of being a member and the influence that an 8 million member NRA would have on policy.
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My dad and I are members. Here's what I'm going to do... buy a membership for someone. Bitching on an internet forum ain't gonna do jack! Politicians understand two things- Money and strength in numbers.
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Hi. This is worth it if you plan on living 12 more years (5yrs is $125): This is supposed to work without having a sponsor per a tweet of his: "Tom Gresham @Guntalk Special $300 NRA Life Member deal is for my friends. You are all my friends. How long? Don't know, so don't wait. 1-888-678-7894" I called and it rang...just passing it along if you're interested.
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one does not have to be a member of any kind of orgn. to be able to contact local elected officials like the Sheriff and right on up the line.
as citizens, voters, and taxpayers we can ask our elected officials to hear our concerns, needs and interests. whether they lift a finger or not is up to them. but at least we shared our perspective and concerns.
they will have to vote their hearts, convictions, perspectives and self-interests.
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Gus, I agree. I may not even agree 100% with some of what the NRA does, but as is the case in hunting sometime a shotgun is the right tool for the job (i.e. hit the issue from multiple angles).
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I just bought 3 new "gift" memberships. It took over an hour to get a person on the phone. They are swamped, and that's a good thing!
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People will gladly join the Rocky Mountain Wolf Foundation, or some stupid bowhunter's association, but cannot drop $25 to defend the Bill of Rights!
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call your elected Sheriff, and solicit his support?? you can vote, can't you??
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call your elected Sheriff, and solicit his support?? you can vote, can't you?? What if your sheriff is a dummycrat?
Son of a liberal: " What did you do in the War On Terror, Daddy?"
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Yes, there should be 40 million members - but as one poster said above - too many gun owners are lazy and think any new law won't affect them. I've got a couple shirttail relatives who think that way.. I never stop trying to show them the light..
Like sheep. They won't look for the light until they're really up to their ---'s in the dark. Unfortunately, by then the trap has been triggered and it's too late. DF
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call your elected Sheriff, and solicit his support?? you can vote, can't you?? What if your sheriff is a dummycrat? work to vote him out if he doesn't choose to support and represent your positions. we need people who work for us in elected positions. the writing is on the wall.
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NRA is nothing but a union on steroids, getting some of those people back that have left over the years is no big deal! Hell I wouldn't even belong to them if it wasn't mandatory to belong to my gun club...
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Hell I wouldn't even belong to them if it wasn't mandatory to belong to my gun club... yeah, but you've always been an idiot. 
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Yep, this idiot kept paying the dues just to belong to the club! How many here said they hadn't belonged to them in years???
How many unions have the gall to send you stuff you didn't order and then bill you for it, and keep demanding payment on it!
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How many unions have the gall to send you stuff you didn't order and then bill you for it, and keep demanding payment on it Sounds like what the government does to me every April 15th!!! (And they sure as hell ask for more than $25-$35, and they're trying to TAKE my rights, not protect them).
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NRA is nothing but a union on steroids, getting some of those people back that have left over the years is no big deal! Hell I wouldn't even belong to them if it wasn't mandatory to belong to my gun club...
Phil Another option is you could just move to a socialist country that aligns with your values. Then exercise your right right to own and shoot firearms there.
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Resurrecting a thread from 2013??
"To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical." -- Thomas Jefferson
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No need to move. Read this. It's coming to us. You can hate Wayne all you want. Yes he screwed up big time but he is a target. The NRA is a target. Every member of the NRA is a target. Just look at the people who were standing anywhere close to the capitol on January 6th 2021. After the democRATs and the FBI get done with them, who do you think is next ?? If you paid dues to the NRA, you are part of the problem. Wayne is just the first to go. To a democRAT someone is always standing in the way of their version of "democracy". No one wants their name on a "list". The way I see it, If you are an NRA member, your name is on a list. kwg https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/f...b1740188f6432a89d4a16b07ab2891&ei=18The Western Journal The Western Journal FBI’s Post About Hunting Down ‘January 6 Fugitives’ Immediately Backfires as Disgusted Users Revolt Story by Laura Wellington • 5h A designated incursion, plenty of Americans see Jan. 6 as a tyrannical fear tactic that becomes evermore useful on the horizon of the 2024 election. With over 1,200 defendants already charged in relation to the Capitol event, the continued arrests and celebrated anniversaries serve as warnings and reminders to the people of the penalty that comes with crossing the Democratic party. This is the reason the hoax continues. The left apparently wants voters to believe that their freedom is purely at Democrats’ will. It’s truly what all of the unfair targeting is about -- a quest for absolute and unceasing power. Democrats aren’t concerned for justice but permanent national reign. With little done to stop them up to this point, they’ve become demonstrably emboldened. This includes the FBI, which resembles another arm of the Democratic party more and more.
For liberals and anarchists, power and control is opium, selling envy is the fastest and easiest way to get it. TRR. American conservative. Never trust a white liberal. Malcom X Current NRA member.
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11 year old thread.
Sheesh.
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The NRA isn't the only game in town. Many have already switched the funds they allocate for that cause to other organizations, and are happy with them.
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I will not go back to the NRA until all board members are gone and starting over. I tell everyone to join the GOA. Wayne and his cronies have fleeced the NRA for personal gain for many years. Wayne got off way to easy for what he has done.
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The NRA isn't the only game in town. They are the only 800 pound gorilla in the room though. The SAF or GOA combined takes in annually about a third of what the NRA donated to Trumps 2016 run.
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Resurrecting a thread from 2013?? It is even more relevant now than when it was posted.
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I am absolutely amazed at the number of Canadians that belong to NRA. On the other hand, my wife and I have been going to Anticosti Island for over 20 years and have ALWAYS been accepted. This year we were pretty much ignored. I allowed myself to get sucked into a political conversation which I never should have done. We booked again for 2024 but I will guarantee that I will eat, hunt, and go to bed in that order every day. I am also VERY happy to hear that Wayne is leaving.
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The NRA isn't the only game in town. They are the only 800 pound gorilla in the room though. The SAF or GOA combined takes in annually about a third of what the NRA donated to Trumps 2016 run. 800lbs gorilla that uses the take for what again?
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I keep my membership at NRA, but my donation money goes to GOA. They are much more effective and trustworthy.
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Lazy...I work with several guys that are not NRA members even though they only own "assault" type weapons. They really want to keep thier stuff but will not join. I can't even guilt them into joining.
Dink Maybe they being to gun rights organizations that don't suck. 😉
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Wayne used the organization as his personal debit card and the board allowed it. More heads will have to roll before I ever give them money again.
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I don't know how many times I have pointed it out, but then again I do not know how many times I will point it out again: the board of directors controls who gets on the nominating committee and the nominating committee controls who gets on the ballot for the board of directors. That's how the bylaws are written.
Any guesses as to how the bylaws can be amended? LOL.
In case it's not self evident, what this means is that a closed group has seized control and consolidated power in such a way that the membership is powerless to make any changes that the board of directors does not want.
If that ain't SWAMP, I don't know what is.
And we wonder why WLP was able to milk the organization as long as he did?
I won't even try to predict whether NRA can ever recover and become the organization most of us believed it to be until a few years ago, but the fact of the matter is that it is NOT the organization we thought we were supporting. And it won't be until the bylaws are changed to allow the membership more influence.
I can understand some of the guys here who just refuse to believe the NRA isn't the greatest organization going. I used to believe that myself, but the day came that I had to admit to myself that my eyes were not lying to me.
Just another example why some say "the truth hurts."
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I don't know how many times I have pointed it out, but then again I do not know how many times I will point it out again: the board of directors controls who gets on the nominating committee and the nominating committee controls who gets on the ballot for the board of directors. That's how the bylaws are written.
Any guesses as to how the bylaws can be amended? LOL.
In case it's not self evident, what this means is that a closed group has seized control and consolidated power in such a way that the membership is powerless to make any changes that the board of directors does not want.
If that ain't SWAMP, I don't know what is.
And we wonder why WLP was able to milk the organization as long as he did?
I won't even try to predict whether NRA can ever recover and become the organization most of us believed it to be until a few years ago, but the fact of the matter is that it is NOT the organization we thought we were supporting. And it won't be until the bylaws are changed to allow the membership more influence.
I can understand some of the guys here who just refuse to believe the NRA isn't the greatest organization going. I used to believe that myself, but the day came that I had to admit to myself that my eyes were not lying to me.
Just another example why some say "the truth hurts." The truth doesn't hurt, it is what it is. The issue is who is going to takeover as the 800 pound gorilla in the room for gun rights? 2020 form 990s has the NRA taking in 105 million in contributions, the GOA took in about 6 million. 6 mill will get a few wins in lawsuits, its not going to buy very much influence in a presidential or senate race. In the 2020 election the NRA out spent by 8 million all the other gun organizations combined. If people want a comparable replacement to the NRA they better get out their wallets and dig deep.
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The NRA isn't the only game in town. They are the only 800 pound gorilla in the room though. The SAF or GOA combined takes in annually about a third of what the NRA donated to Trumps 2016 run. This. When the leftists want to attack a gun organization who do they go after ?? The NRA. And, yes, I am a member of the NRA and have been for years. I will continue to be a member . Why ? Because the political left hates us and I want them to know the feeling is mutual. And donating to republicans and the Donald Trump campaign is why the AG of New York attacked them. Wayne left the door open for the attack and he is getting what he deserves but there are a lot of good Americans in the same boat as me. I truly dislike the AG of New York and I truly believe she is the problem and NOT the NRA or the members of the NRA. So, it you want to stick it in the eye of the political left, keep on paying them NRA dues and keeping the numbers up is the only thing those leftist kchunts understand. In the end, the b!t  h will be gone and the NRA will still be standing if we hang in there and support the mission and charter of the NRA. kwg
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Here's a perfect example of what the NRA is all about: ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/QM0eP9L.jpg) In case you don't know who Dade Phelan is, then read up about how he (as Speaker of the Texas House) was called out for conducting the State's business while completely sh itfaced by the Attorney general, Ken Paxton and how in retaliation Phelan launched a failed attempt to impeach and remove Paxton from office. Quite a story, it was.
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They haven't corrected their problem yet. Buttfugk them.
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The NRA isn't the only game in town. They are the only 800 pound gorilla in the room though. The SAF or GOA combined takes in annually about a third of what the NRA donated to Trumps 2016 run. This. When the leftists want to attack a gun organization who do they go after ?? The NRA. And, yes, I am a member of the NRA and have been for years. I will continue to be a member . Why ? Because the political left hates us and I want them to know the feeling is mutual. And donating to republicans and the Donald Trump campaign is why the AG of New York attacked them. Wayne left the door open for the attack and he is getting what he deserves but there are a lot of good Americans in the same boat as me. I truly dislike the AG of New York and I truly believe she is the problem and NOT the NRA or the members of the NRA. So, it you want to stick it in the eye of the political left, keep on paying them NRA dues and keeping the numbers up is the only thing those leftist kchunts understand. In the end, the b!t h will be gone and the NRA will still be standing if we hang in there and support the mission and charter of the NRA. kwg Oohhhh...I get it now. The way to win is to keep throwing good money after bad. That'll change the world. Yup.
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The NRA isn't the only game in town. They are the only 800 pound gorilla in the room though. The SAF or GOA combined takes in annually about a third of what the NRA donated to Trumps 2016 run. The reason for that is that people don't have the spine to jump ship. The crooked NRA loves people like you. lol.
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Here's a perfect example of what the NRA is all about: In case you don't know who Dade Phelan is, then read up about how he (as Speaker of the Texas House) was called out for conducting the State's business while completely sh itfaced by the Attorney general, Ken Paxton and how in retaliation Phelan launched a failed attempt to impeach and remove Paxton from office. Quite a story, it was. Yep. Just another confirmation that I was correct in dropping the NRA. I'm a member of the GOA, now. The NRA needs to clean house - every board director must be replaced.
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NRA will have to demonstrate that they are willing to fight for our rights, until then the GOA is getting my support and actually fighting.
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The NRA isn't the only game in town. They are the only 800 pound gorilla in the room though. The SAF or GOA combined takes in annually about a third of what the NRA donated to Trumps 2016 run. This. When the leftists want to attack a gun organization who do they go after ?? The NRA. And, yes, I am a member of the NRA and have been for years. I will continue to be a member . Why ? Because the political left hates us and I want them to know the feeling is mutual. And donating to republicans and the Donald Trump campaign is why the AG of New York attacked them. Wayne left the door open for the attack and he is getting what he deserves but there are a lot of good Americans in the same boat as me. I truly dislike the AG of New York and I truly believe she is the problem and NOT the NRA or the members of the NRA. So, it you want to stick it in the eye of the political left, keep on paying them NRA dues and keeping the numbers up is the only thing those leftist kchunts understand. In the end, the b!t h will be gone and the NRA will still be standing if we hang in there and support the mission and charter of the NRA. kwg Oohhhh...I get it now. The way to win is to keep throwing good money after bad. That'll change the world. Yup. the NRA is like the Demoncraps, just throw money at the problem, after they take out their cut, which the NRA does quite well. one dollar for the problem, $20 for me, one dollar for the problem, $20 for me..........
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Here's a perfect example of what the NRA is all about: In case you don't know who Dade Phelan is, then read up about how he (as Speaker of the Texas House) was called out for conducting the State's business while completely sh itfaced by the Attorney general, Ken Paxton and how in retaliation Phelan launched a failed attempt to impeach and remove Paxton from office. Quite a story, it was. Yep. Just another confirmation that I was correct in dropping the NRA. I'm a member of the GOA, now. The NRA needs to clean house - every board director must be replaced. Not enough. The bylaws have to be changed or the organization will remain the same.
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They have a lot of proving to do before I'll trust the NRA with any more of my money. WLP is gone, but has his "posse"?
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The NRA isn't the only game in town. They are the only 800 pound gorilla in the room though. The SAF or GOA combined takes in annually about a third of what the NRA donated to Trumps 2016 run. This. When the leftists want to attack a gun organization who do they go after ?? The NRA. And, yes, I am a member of the NRA and have been for years. I will continue to be a member . Why ? Because the political left hates us and I want them to know the feeling is mutual. And donating to republicans and the Donald Trump campaign is why the AG of New York attacked them. Wayne left the door open for the attack and he is getting what he deserves but there are a lot of good Americans in the same boat as me. I truly dislike the AG of New York and I truly believe she is the problem and NOT the NRA or the members of the NRA. So, it you want to stick it in the eye of the political left, keep on paying them NRA dues and keeping the numbers up is the only thing those leftist kchunts understand. In the end, the b!t h will be gone and the NRA will still be standing if we hang in there and support the mission and charter of the NRA. kwg Oohhhh...I get it now. The way to win is to keep throwing good money after bad. That'll change the world. Yup. $35 a year. There is no mandate to add any more. It's a case of let's take out the trash then stand together. kwg
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I don't know how many times I have pointed it out, but then again I do not know how many times I will point it out again: the board of directors controls who gets on the nominating committee and the nominating committee controls who gets on the ballot for the board of directors. That's how the bylaws are written.
Any guesses as to how the bylaws can be amended? LOL.
In case it's not self evident, what this means is that a closed group has seized control and consolidated power in such a way that the membership is powerless to make any changes that the board of directors does not want.
If that ain't SWAMP, I don't know what is.
And we wonder why WLP was able to milk the organization as long as he did?
I won't even try to predict whether NRA can ever recover and become the organization most of us believed it to be until a few years ago, but the fact of the matter is that it is NOT the organization we thought we were supporting. And it won't be until the bylaws are changed to allow the membership more influence.
I can understand some of the guys here who just refuse to believe the NRA isn't the greatest organization going. I used to believe that myself, but the day came that I had to admit to myself that my eyes were not lying to me.
Just another example why some say "the truth hurts." The truth doesn't hurt, it is what it is. The issue is who is going to takeover as the 800 pound gorilla in the room for gun rights? 2020 form 990s has the NRA taking in 105 million in contributions, the GOA took in about 6 million. 6 mill will get a few wins in lawsuits, its not going to buy very much influence in a presidential or senate race. In the 2020 election the NRA out spent by 8 million all the other gun organizations combined. If people want a comparable replacement to the NRA they better get out their wallets and dig deep. What seamstress has influence over senate/potus races?
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They have a lot of proving to do before I'll trust the NRA with any more of my money. WLP is gone, but has his "posse"? No, he picked his replacement.
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Oohhhh...I get it now. The way to win is to keep throwing good money after bad.
That'll change the world. Yup. They haven't corrected their problem yet. Buttfugk them. The only real solution is bankruptcy, complete liquidation. Otherwise Wayne and whoever else feathered their nests with huge retirements and golden parachutes get to keep sucking up the money. The legal bills for their shenanigans will continue to be paid. It is time to burn this old rotten barn down. There is no other way to get rid of the blood suckers and 76 board of directors that have been robbing this organization for decades. Ever wonder why they wouldn't fight anti-gun laws in court? That would have solved the question of the 2nd amendment. A crisis atmosphere had to be maintained. Other organizations won the big court decisions while the big bad NRA stood around yapping like a neutered dog at a gang bang. By the way I'm a life member and I throw the magazine away every time it comes in.
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$35 a year. There is no mandate to add any more. It's a case of let's take out the trash then stand together.
kwg I don't think you understand. Certain members get to vote in the BoD elections. As a Life Member I get to vote. Guess what? No one is on the ballot unless the nominating committee allows them to be. Guess who control who is on the nominating committee? That would be the Board of Directors. My vote truly means nothing because no one sits on the nominating committee who would upset the applecart, and the nomonating committee will allow no one on the ballot for the BoD elections who would upset the applecart. Can you see the problem here? You cannot take out the trash because you have NO influence over who sits on the Nominating Committee. You cannot take out the trash because you cannot get a nominee for the BoD past the Nominating Committee. The trash OWNS the organization. They have a lock on it. You and I have NO SAY WHATSOEVER, but you can send them all the money you want to send. NRA is SWAMP.
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$35 a year. There is no mandate to add any more. It's a case of let's take out the trash then stand together.
kwg I don't think you understand. Certain members get to vote in the BoD elections. As a Life Member I get to vote. Guess what? No one is on the ballot unless the nominating committee allows them to be. Guess who control who is on the nominating committee? That would be the Board of Directors. My vote truly means nothing because no one sits on the nominating committee who would upset the applecart, and the nomonating committee will allow no one on the ballot for the BoD elections who would upset the applecart. Can you see the problem here? You cannot take out the trash because you have NO influence over who sits on the Nominating Committee. You cannot take out the trash because you cannot get a nominee for the BoD past the Nominating Committee. The trash OWNS the organization. They have a lock on it. You and I have NO SAY WHATSOEVER, but you can send them all the money you want to send. NRA is SWAMP. AMEN. That is why I say force the organization into bankruptcy and liquidate it. Then it can be reorganized as the NNRA meaning the new NRA or one of the up and coming organizations can take in the refugees. There is no repairing the old NRA without the entire BOD gone along with the bylaws.
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The NRA isn't the only game in town. They are the only 800 pound gorilla in the room though. The SAF or GOA combined takes in annually about a third of what the NRA donated to Trumps 2016 run. This. When the leftists want to attack a gun organization who do they go after ?? The NRA. And, yes, I am a member of the NRA and have been for years. I will continue to be a member . Why ? Because the political left hates us and I want them to know the feeling is mutual. And donating to republicans and the Donald Trump campaign is why the AG of New York attacked them. Wayne left the door open for the attack and he is getting what he deserves but there are a lot of good Americans in the same boat as me. I truly dislike the AG of New York and I truly believe she is the problem and NOT the NRA or the members of the NRA. So, it you want to stick it in the eye of the political left, keep on paying them NRA dues and keeping the numbers up is the only thing those leftist kchunts understand. In the end, the b!t h will be gone and the NRA will still be standing if we hang in there and support the mission and charter of the NRA. kwg Oohhhh...I get it now. The way to win is to keep throwing good money after bad. That'll change the world. Yup. Who said anything about throwing good money after bad? I don't give a $hit if the NRA cease to exist tomorrow. The sad truth about American politics is money talks and if all the gun advocacy groups combined can't match what the NRA alone donates in an election cycle then we are going to be in for a rough ride
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The NRA isn't the only game in town. They are the only 800 pound gorilla in the room though. The SAF or GOA combined takes in annually about a third of what the NRA donated to Trumps 2016 run. The reason for that is that people don't have the spine to jump ship. The crooked NRA loves people like you. lol. Why would they love me? I haven't sent anything to them when it came out that Wayne needed a 5 million Texas mansion on the NRAs dime.My donations go to the SAF.
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The NRA isn't the only game in town. They are the only 800 pound gorilla in the room though. The SAF or GOA combined takes in annually about a third of what the NRA donated to Trumps 2016 run. This. When the leftists want to attack a gun organization who do they go after ?? The NRA. And, yes, I am a member of the NRA and have been for years. I will continue to be a member . Why ? Because the political left hates us and I want them to know the feeling is mutual. And donating to republicans and the Donald Trump campaign is why the AG of New York attacked them. Wayne left the door open for the attack and he is getting what he deserves but there are a lot of good Americans in the same boat as me. I truly dislike the AG of New York and I truly believe she is the problem and NOT the NRA or the members of the NRA. So, it you want to stick it in the eye of the political left, keep on paying them NRA dues and keeping the numbers up is the only thing those leftist kchunts understand. In the end, the b!t h will be gone and the NRA will still be standing if we hang in there and support the mission and charter of the NRA. kwg Oohhhh...I get it now. The way to win is to keep throwing good money after bad. That'll change the world. Yup. I always wonder if the people making that claim really do that as a general principle or if it is just nra specific? Like if they get shoddy service at a restaurant they feel compelled to go back again, get shoddy service again and repeat, over and over. And all while telling everyone they know how great it is and/or castigating anyone who says the service sucks.
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The NRA isn't the only game in town. They are the only 800 pound gorilla in the room though. The SAF or GOA combined takes in annually about a third of what the NRA donated to Trumps 2016 run. This. When the leftists want to attack a gun organization who do they go after ?? The NRA. And, yes, I am a member of the NRA and have been for years. I will continue to be a member . Why ? Because the political left hates us and I want them to know the feeling is mutual. And donating to republicans and the Donald Trump campaign is why the AG of New York attacked them. Wayne left the door open for the attack and he is getting what he deserves but there are a lot of good Americans in the same boat as me. I truly dislike the AG of New York and I truly believe she is the problem and NOT the NRA or the members of the NRA. So, it you want to stick it in the eye of the political left, keep on paying them NRA dues and keeping the numbers up is the only thing those leftist kchunts understand. In the end, the b!t h will be gone and the NRA will still be standing if we hang in there and support the mission and charter of the NRA. kwg Oohhhh...I get it now. The way to win is to keep throwing good money after bad. That'll change the world. Yup. Who said anything about throwing good money after bad? I don't give a $hit if the NRA cease to exist tomorrow. The sad truth about American politics is money talks and if all the gun advocacy groups combined can't match what the NRA alone donates in an election cycle then we are going to be in for a rough ride Who/what nra flips donations to is often an even larger problem from the 2A aspect than when they simply pocket the money.
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The NRA isn't the only game in town. They are the only 800 pound gorilla in the room though. The SAF or GOA combined takes in annually about a third of what the NRA donated to Trumps 2016 run. This. When the leftists want to attack a gun organization who do they go after ?? The NRA. And, yes, I am a member of the NRA and have been for years. I will continue to be a member . Why ? Because the political left hates us and I want them to know the feeling is mutual. And donating to republicans and the Donald Trump campaign is why the AG of New York attacked them. Wayne left the door open for the attack and he is getting what he deserves but there are a lot of good Americans in the same boat as me. I truly dislike the AG of New York and I truly believe she is the problem and NOT the NRA or the members of the NRA. So, it you want to stick it in the eye of the political left, keep on paying them NRA dues and keeping the numbers up is the only thing those leftist kchunts understand. In the end, the b!t h will be gone and the NRA will still be standing if we hang in there and support the mission and charter of the NRA. kwg Oohhhh...I get it now. The way to win is to keep throwing good money after bad. That'll change the world. Yup. Who said anything about throwing good money after bad? I don't give a $hit if the NRA cease to exist tomorrow. The sad truth about American politics is money talks and if all the gun advocacy groups combined can't match what the NRA alone donates in an election cycle then we are going to be in for a rough ride Who/what nra flips donations to is often an even larger problem from the 2A aspect than when they simply pocket the money. Harry Reid Dade Phelan For those two alone I would remove the entire board. Reid was many years ago, and NRA's excuse was "we are a single-issue organization and Harry Reid has been an NRA ally." They can give their own fu cking money to demons like Dade Phelan and Harry Reid. Not mine.
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Jeeze just heard on the radio that since this big fracus erupted that the NRA has seen a "spike" of new members numbering a hundred thousand.
A hundred thousand?
Damn that seems small to me.
Are people really that strapped for cash, or are they just lazy? nobody trusts the NRA anymore to actually fight against 2a regulations. they have too much of a history of compromising
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THAT [bleep] [bleep] WLP hasn't even left his job yet and you all sound like a bunch of old ladies. [bleep] No one here with any sense has given a dime to the NRA because in the last 5 to 10 years becuase WLP is a HUGE POS!! So your bitching? I am a Life member of the NRA and have been since 1995. I wish that I had spent my money with GOA or elsewhere.I am now a member of GOA and have been for a couple years. WTF is wrong with some of you puzzies? Friends of Wayne? Sucking his meat stick? [bleep] WLP and the NRA until they get their cesspool of spending under control.
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There is also the bad Biden economy and maybe some people just can't pay. I had a supervisor one time who joined the NRA and didn't own a gun. He believed in the constitution and knew they were trying to protect the 2nd amendment.
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$75 PMAGS? Are you smoking crack? Am I in the TWILIGHT ZONE HERE? [bleep] for the last 5 years EVERYONE HAS BEEN BITCHING ABOUT NOT GIVING A DIME TO THE NRA till Big Wayne is gone. He isn't out the door yet and you puzzies are all screaming. What if he rescinds his retirement?
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There is also the bad Biden economy and maybe some people just can't pay. I had a supervisor one time who joined the NRA and didn't own a gun. He believed in the constitution and knew they were trying to protect the 2nd amendment. it would be nice if they actually did fight to protect it
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Resurrecting a thread from 2013?? 🤫
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I guess I didn't realize that somebody revived a 10 year old thread. My apologies!!
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Considering the things we've learned about the NRA since 2013 and the fact that there has been relevant news lately, I don't think an apology is necessary. Too many still haven't recognized how NRA has damaged the republic in more recent years.
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They haven't corrected their problem yet. Buttfugk them. First idea that popped inta your head?
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Paul knows they aren't interested in viking food.
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Paul knows they aren't interested in viking food. lololol
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Considering the things we've learned about the NRA since 2013 and the fact that there has been relevant news lately, I don't think an apology is necessary. Too many still haven't recognized how NRA has damaged the republic in more recent years. They were doing damage long before the tailored suit news came out. That's actually minor compared to a lot of the anti2A crap they have done.
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THAT [bleep] [bleep] WLP hasn't even left his job yet and you all sound like a bunch of old ladies. [bleep] No one here with any sense has given a dime to the NRA because in the last 5 to 10 years becuase WLP is a HUGE POS!! So your bitching? I am a Life member of the NRA and have been since 1995. I wish that I had spent my money with GOA or elsewhere.I am now a member of GOA and have been for a couple years. WTF is wrong with some of you puzzies? Friends of Wayne? Sucking his meat stick? [bleep] WLP and the NRA until they get their cesspool of spending under control. ^--solid rant. WLP's golden parachute is an abomination, I won't help pay for it.
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... they have too much of a history of compromising NOT "compromising". Capitulating. Hell, downright collaborating. For over a hundred fuoking years. It's what they do. Piss on the NRA.
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NRA is a business with the main goal of making money. The mission was to protect our 2nd Ammendment Rights which they did well. Over time the corporate greed overcame the mission. WLP may be gone but the culture that he left behind remains
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People get tired of shelling out money over the long term. Its human nature. Even for incredibly important issues. Toss in some graff on the part of the receiving organization and it makes it easy for those who are tired to stop giving.
Then you have your crew that never gave any money and now have an excuse as to why not to monetarily support the NRA.
I can certainly understand how people can get tired of being constantly hit up for money. NRA isn't the only thing people give to.
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NRA is a business with the main goal of making money. The PETA Business Model: sow fear and anxiety over animal abuse and animal rights, and solicit as much cash as possible to fight against animal abuse and to fight for animal rights. But do they really accomplish anything? Not much beyond soliciting donations. Would PETA exist if they totally eradicated "animal abuse"? Would there be a need for the NRA if they totally eradicated all gun control? The NRA follows the PETA business model and does just enough to justify their existence without jeopardizing their cash flow. I haven't been an NRA member for over 30 years, and that's on purpose. An organization like that will never totally eradicate gun control, especially if there's money to be made off a never ending threat to the Second Amendment. The People have to do that job. Was there any talk here on the Campfire a few years ago when the people of Virginia schooled the rest of the nation on how to fight gun control? A radical leftist democrat senate, assembly, and governor put out a list of gun control bills that would have turned NY and Kalifornistan green with envy if they ever got passed and signed into law. The People of Virginia stood up and said F uck You. 93 out of 95 counties and several cities declared Second Amendment Sanctuary. Sheriffs (some democrat) were declaring, in writing, that they would not enforce any new gun control law and that they would detain and arrest any state officials trying to come into their counties to enforce any new laws. A few counties formed legit constitutional militias to aid the SOs in enforcing the 2A Sanctuary resolutions. Add in the rally in Richmond where thousands of people choked the streets around the capitol building for a whole day, most armed with at least a sidearm, many with a full load out, and sent a VERY clear message to the leadership that they weren't gonna mess around with that sh it. Wether or not you think that whole thing had any merit or Constitutional standing doesn't matter, it accomplished what needed doing. It shut down the entire platform of gun control bills that were pending and the whole thing went away. The People spoke, The People won. And with ZERO help from the NRA. That's how you shut down gun control.
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This post was started almost exactly 11 years ago. A lot has changed in the NRA over that time. Lot of private jets, fancy vacations, lavish suits... Perhaps, and ironically thanks to some liberals suing Wayne, the NRA might get back on track.
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The owner of this website (Rick Bin?) should require a NRA membership to join. Period. Even the homepage to my shooting range has a link to join. Damn good idea.
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$35 a year. There is no mandate to add any more. It's a case of let's take out the trash then stand together.
kwg I don't think you understand. Certain members get to vote in the BoD elections. As a Life Member I get to vote. Guess what? No one is on the ballot unless the nominating committee allows them to be. Guess who control who is on the nominating committee? That would be the Board of Directors. My vote truly means nothing because no one sits on the nominating committee who would upset the applecart, and the nomonating committee will allow no one on the ballot for the BoD elections who would upset the applecart. Can you see the problem here? You cannot take out the trash because you have NO influence over who sits on the Nominating Committee. You cannot take out the trash because you cannot get a nominee for the BoD past the Nominating Committee. The trash OWNS the organization. They have a lock on it. You and I have NO SAY WHATSOEVER, but you can send them all the money you want to send. NRA is SWAMP. Unfortunately this is true. I don't understand how it got that way. The "Cincinnati Reforms" of 1977 were supposed to prevent stuff like this. As a Life Member (actually Benefactor member) I too get to vote. But why bother? I have no idea who the candidates are or what are their qualifications. For a time, there was a slate of candidates other than those nominated by the Board. No longer. I joined in 1975. CBS had a show about how "evil" hunting was. It featured a guy grabbing a little exotic deer of some kind by the antler and pumping pistol bullets into it. The deer bleated after every shot. I asked my wife to bring me our checkbook. I wrote a check for $100 to the NRA and addressed it to "NRA Washington, DC." I enclosed a note asking to be a Life member and told them if this was not the correct amount, I would send more. A lot of water had gone under the bridge since then. Ever since then I have donated money every year until crooked Wayne became known. I will hold off a little longer to see if they have made some changes.
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The owner of this website (Rick Bin?) should require a NRA membership to join. Period. Even the homepage to my shooting range has a link to join. That is one of the stupidist things I have heard in a long time. The NRA is not our friend. They have capitulated over and over and over. There should never have been any give. Had that been the case the 2A questions would have been settled decades ago. Jim
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The owner of this website (Rick Bin?) should require a NRA membership to join. Period. Even the homepage to my shooting range has a link to join. That is one of the stupidist things I have heard in a long time. The NRA is not our friend. They have capitulated over and over and over. There should never have been any give. Had that been the case the 2A questions would have been settled decades ago. Jim It is a completely idiotic idea. I found out just this morning that NRA has endorsed the "republican" Texas House rep for my district, Lynn Stucky. This [bleep] went along with [Texas House Speaker] Dade Phelan's impeachment of the Attorney General, Ken Paxton on trumped up charges of corruption which had been laid to rest years ago. The reason Phelan launched another impeachment attempt? Phelan was taped conducting a house session while obviously sh itfaced drunk, and Paxton called him out on it. The rep who NRA endorsed, Lynn Stucky was called out for supporting the impeachment and his weakass excuse was "I know things." Not only that, but when the House rules were voted on at the beginning of this last session, Phelan disregarded the will of the voters by appointing democrats to some key chairmanship positions in the House which the voters had expressed wishes to prohibit entirely, and Stucky supported him in this as well. These are RINO/establishment moves, every bit of it. Oh---I almost forgot...NRA endorsed Phelan as well. Support the NRA? ABSOLUTELY not. If you're sending them money they are using YOUR money to thwart your electoral will. Fu ck the NRA with a giant Saguaro cactus.
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.......with a giant Saguaro cactus. Ooh....that's bad......
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.......with a giant Saguaro cactus. Ooh....that's bad...... LMAO
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.......with a giant Saguaro cactus. Ooh....that's bad...... LMAO I like that a lot!!!!!!!!!! Jim
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How is everyone on the NRA bandwagon all of a sudden. Just because one guy left it’s still a [bleep] show. The NRA has not been about 2nd amendment rights for year, it was about money and how to spend it.
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The NRA trial in New York is over and the jury is deliberating.
Unlike the Trump trial witch hunt there was real evidence of malfeasance and misfeasance.
We will see shortly.
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How is everyone on the NRA bandwagon all of a sudden. Just because one guy left it’s still a [bleep] show. The NRA has not been about 2nd amendment rights for year, it was about money and how to spend it.
It will be a long road for them to get where they need to be. NRA actually helped write and support the first big encroachment of the 2nd A, the NFA in 1934 (get the Mafia! fever), helped write and supported and lobbied for (with YOUR money) the GCA of 1968 (Martin Luther King and JFK would still be alive!, sob, if we had more laws) the primary tool used against YOU and your exercise of the 2nd A. This is not my opinion goddammit, this is easily googled history. Wake up men, the NRA is the primary tool used to erode the 2nd A, you guys who love your AR platforms? Look at the history...the NRA made the decision in 1994 that the AR had no valid sporting purposes. It's where the sentence, "The 2nd Amendment ain't about duck hunting" came from...the outnumbered guys fighting the alliance of government and the NRA.
Well this is a fine pickle we're in, should'a listened to Joe McCarthy and George Orwell I guess.
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How is everyone on the NRA bandwagon all of a sudden. Just because one guy left it’s still a [bleep] show. The NRA has not been about 2nd amendment rights for year, it was about money and how to spend it.
It will be a long road for them to get where they need to be. NRA actually helped write and support the first big encroachment of the 2nd A, the NFA in 1934 (get the Mafia! fever), helped write and supported and lobbied for (with YOUR money) the GCA of 1968 (Martin Luther King and JFK would still be alive!, sob, if we had more laws) the primary tool used against YOU and your exercise of the 2nd A. This is not my opinion goddammit, this is easily googled history. Wake up men, the NRA is the primary tool used to erode the 2nd A, you guys who love your AR platforms? Look at the history...the NRA made the decision in 1994 that the AR had no valid sporting purposes. It's where the sentence, "The 2nd Amendment ain't about duck hunting" came from...the outnumbered guys fighting the alliance of government and the NRA. Yep, they are like our loving, benevolent Neonazis in Covertment.
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Wake up men, the NRA is the primary tool used to erode the 2nd A, you guys who love your AR platforms? Look at the history...the NRA made the decision in 1994 that the AR had no valid sporting purposes. It's where the sentence, "The 2nd Amendment ain't about duck hunting" came from...the outnumbered guys fighting the alliance of government and the NRA. So.. THAT'S why a liberal leftist DA in a liberal leftist wasteland is trying so hard to break it?
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Oops! I needed that reminder. Signed up just now.
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After all they have done in the past, I am very surprised they could get 100,000 people to sign up. Such a corrupt outfit that we have seen with our dues. I will never rejoin until there is a new B.O.D.. They helped Wayne slush off millions and millions of money that was supposed to be spent countering anti-2nd advances. Wayne should have been gone long ago with the $2,000 suits and big yachts and jets, with out a Gigantic severance package for him. The board and Wayne should both be GONE.
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Wake up men, the NRA is the primary tool used to erode the 2nd A, you guys who love your AR platforms? Look at the history...the NRA made the decision in 1994 that the AR had no valid sporting purposes. It's where the sentence, "The 2nd Amendment ain't about duck hunting" came from...the outnumbered guys fighting the alliance of government and the NRA. So.. THAT'S why a liberal leftist DA in a liberal leftist wasteland is trying so hard to break it? Isn't it also possible the Lefty DA is career building, using the very simplistic optic...guns bad, NRA bad...vote for me when I run for attorney general? Which does not by default make the NRA good...just because a lefty is attacking it.
Well this is a fine pickle we're in, should'a listened to Joe McCarthy and George Orwell I guess.
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I simply refuse to throw out an entire organization, made up of good folks like you and me due to leadership issues.
You don't scuttle a ship because the current captain cannot be trusted to sail it.
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The higher-ups sent their head criminal off with a $7,000,000 sum (of members money) and they ALL knew of his criminal use of the funds yet did nothing for decades. Those fellow criminals are still the higher-ups.
Fools can send in money and join, but I never will.
Look for my membership after the Jews forgive Hitler and after Hillary Clinton openly tells the USA all the truth of her political career.
When both of those things happen,------------------------------------- I probably still would not join the NRA,
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I simply refuse to throw out an entire organization, made up of good folks like you and me due to leadership issues.
You don't scuttle a ship because the current captain cannot be trusted to sail it. It's not just the captain, I respectfully encourage you to google the history I mentioned above, and the Neil Knox/Harlon Carter Cincinatti revolt...and draw your conclusions as to the 76 board members that rubber stamp the executive committee actions. The board members are the poster children of the 'good ol boy club', nepotism, back scratching, favoritism, perks, expense accounts ad nauseum. The multi million kickbacks from advertising agencies and media firms was spread widely to maintain the status quo. Get along to go along. Do you find it strange that not one of the 76 board members questioned the lavish expenditures? Do you find it strange, the deafening silence as Pres. Oliver North dropped off the radar after questioning expenditures? Nary a peep from the board? You may take issue with me on this....OK, please go to your search engine and read the history, form your own opinions, please.
Well this is a fine pickle we're in, should'a listened to Joe McCarthy and George Orwell I guess.
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Maybe we're waiting to see if the post-LaPierre NRA is any better before we go back.
Or maybe we just joined GOA.
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The higher ups sent their head criminal off with a $7,000,000 sum (of members money) and they ALL knew of his criminal use of the funds yet did nothing for decades. Those fellow criminals are still the higher-ups.
Fools can send in money and join, but I never will.
Look for my membership after the Jews forgive Hitler and after Hillary Clinton openly tells the USA all the truth of her political career.
When both of those things happen,------------------------------------- I probably still would not join the NRA, Well, I'm a man of my word. If I say I'm going to do something, I do it. 100%. Wife says that's one thing that attracted her to me. I've been saying all along that I would not renew until WLP was gone. He's gone.
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It's your money lads, if somebody f...ks you once, shame on them, if they f...k you twice, shame on you.
Well this is a fine pickle we're in, should'a listened to Joe McCarthy and George Orwell I guess.
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I simply refuse to throw out an entire organization, made up of good folks like you and me due to leadership issues.
You don't scuttle a ship because the current captain cannot be trusted to sail it. It's not just the captain, I respectfully encourage you to google the history I mentioned above, and the Neil Knox/Harlon Carter Cincinatti revolt...and draw your conclusions as to the 76 board members that rubber stamp the executive committee actions. The board members are the poster children of the 'good ol boy club', nepotism, back scratching, favoritism, perks, expense accounts ad nauseum. The multi million kickbacks from advertising agencies and media firms was spread widely to maintain the status quo. Get along to go along. Do you find it strange that not one of the 76 board members questioned the lavish expenditures? Do you find it strange, the deafening silence as Pres. Oliver North dropped off the radar after questioning expenditures? Nary a peep from the board? You may take issue with me on this....OK, please go to your search engine and read the history, form your own opinions, please. I'm not taking any issue with you individually whatsoever. YOU make valid points. I use the word "you" broadly. Good discussion. If I took a stance that "my money" has to be used "my way" then I could not pay insurance premiums, buy American made vehicles, take the prescriptions my doctor advises or give to most charities. I wish I could fix everything. I can't. Therefore, I take what I need and leave the rest. I take their training, printed materials, their safety educational materials and I attempt to pass it along to those who really need it. I do voice my displeasure with things that I don't agree with to my representatives, but outside that I just do what I can to grow our heritage at home.
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Who knows?
I simply refuse to throw out an entire organization, made up of good folks like you and me due to leadership issues.
You don't scuttle a ship because the current captain cannot be trusted to sail it. ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/mOTLy2w.jpg)
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I will pay my NRA annual dues, but when I have money to donate, it goes to the GOA.
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I simply refuse to throw out an entire organization, made up of good folks like you and me due to leadership issues.
You don't scuttle a ship because the current captain cannot be trusted to sail it. True. True. The one thing every voice there has in common, is they paid for their ticket and therefore have a voice. Nobody standing on shore miles away is being heard.
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I like your philosophy, life is a series of compromises, we deal with that the best as we can individually.
I am 78, and I have lived with the compromises the NRA has made, the worst for me, the 1968 GCA, and I, as a law abiding citizen can no longer order a firearm of any kind unless it is in excess of 125 years old. Keeping up on current events, it's difficult for me to see how this has affected firearm related crime stats. So for me, it's difficult to send money to an organization who has a long documented record of encroachment on "shall not be infringed".
I could probably swallow a little larceny by management if the greater good was hard line defense of the 2nd Amendment...but the record does not reflect anything even approaching hard line, collusion actually.
Well this is a fine pickle we're in, should'a listened to Joe McCarthy and George Orwell I guess.
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I simply refuse to throw out an entire organization, made up of good folks like you and me due to leadership issues.
You don't scuttle a ship because the current captain cannot be trusted to sail it. True. True. The one thing every voice there has in common, is they paid for their ticket and therefore have a voice. Nobody standing on shore miles away is being heard. The membership of the NRA wasn't being heard. The membership was (and still is) powerless.
"Whose bright idea was it to put every idiot in the world in touch with every other idiot? It's working!" -- P. J. O'Rourke
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The owner of this website (Rick Bin?) should require a NRA membership to join. Period. Even the homepage to my shooting range has a link to join. Damn good idea.
I would not force anyone to join the NRA. But, there are other gun organizations out there to join. If you belong to one post it in your signature line. Let the world know where you stand.
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I apologize for all of the bold print. I can't seem to fix it.
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nobody's noticed the original Post in this thread is now over 11 years old..
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I simply refuse to throw out an entire organization, made up of good folks like you and me due to leadership issues.
You don't scuttle a ship because the current captain cannot be trusted to sail it. Not disagreeing, but let's not make small hay of what the NRA leadership has been. Its been nothing short of atrocious. Its not a little blip in its history. Leadership has been corruption to its intended role. NRA is in need a lot of good will to show imo
Quit giving in inch by inch then looking back to lament the mile behind ya and wonder how to preserve those few feet left in front of ya. They'll never stop until they're stopped. That's a fact.
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That voice is being heard and I feel the same frustration that it is not being heeded.
Joining is an individual decision. I will not attempt to persuade anyone NOT to join because of things I cannot control.
There is always room for improvement. I don't think any organization has been without fault or had its need for change at times.
And it is a desperate time for such, I freely admit. I'm pushing for the wheels of change to roll in a correct direction.
Yep, sickens me the past selfish disregard for the organization by the previous leadership.
I can only relate what I have benefited from over my years of membership, and I do attempt to pass along something good from it.
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nobody's noticed the original Post in this thread is now over 11 years old.. Holy crap, no I didnt! lol nice
Quit giving in inch by inch then looking back to lament the mile behind ya and wonder how to preserve those few feet left in front of ya. They'll never stop until they're stopped. That's a fact.
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gt, Good points. Read how the Nazi's chipped away, one thing/group at a time, until they had the whole populating under their control. They divided and conquered. Does that ring a bell...? If the Jewish people had not been so passive and trusting, but had turned into hard core, gun toting street fighters, things may have been different. At least they would have gone down at great expense to the regime, not herded like cattle into gas chambers. Now, to those who don't seem to learn from history... DF Warsaw - but they still lost, betrayed by the Russians in part, under manned and under weaponed for the rest.
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75 member board?? I don't think so! FUGG 'EM!! Not one dime!! They're as useless as Republicans!
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I simply refuse to throw out an entire organization, made up of good folks like you and me due to leadership issues.
You don't scuttle a ship because the current captain cannot be trusted to sail it. If you are going to sail the ship of reform you first have to put together an honest crew. Wayne's crew is still on the ship.
Patriotism (and religion) is the last refuge of a scoundrel.
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75 member board?? I don't think so! FUGG 'EM!! Not one dime!! They're as useless as Republicans! And once the board is gone it will be not one more dime for some other reason. Broke dicks will always find a reason to keep moving the goal posts. lol
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nobody's noticed the original Post in this thread is now over 11 years old.. I did. Figured, correctly, that shills wouldn't.
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I simply refuse to throw out an entire organization, made up of good folks like you and me due to leadership issues.
You don't scuttle a ship because the current captain cannot be trusted to sail it. Does the organization operate per your directions, the leaderships' directions, or are the directions you would give the same as leadership?
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They haven't corrected their problem yet. Buttfugk them. AYE !!!!!!!!!!!!!
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75 member board?? I don't think so! FUGG 'EM!! Not one dime!! They're as useless as Republicans! And once the board is gone it will be not one more dime for some other reason. Broke dicks will always find a reason to keep moving the goal posts. lol So, we are "broke dicks" for not wasting our money on proven prodigals and outright thieves? The NRA ship is going down and other ships have pulled along side to rescue everyone except the pirates. I remain, a disappointed life member and from now on no matter what the NRA gets not a nickel more from me.
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I simply refuse to throw out an entire organization, made up of good folks like you and me due to leadership issues.
You don't scuttle a ship because the current captain cannot be trusted to sail it. Does the organization operate per your directions, the leaderships' directions, or are the directions you would give the same as leadership? I highly doubt they would like the budget or expense account boundaries I would set. I admit, I have never operated inside the beltway.
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You know it was very important to have NRA outreach trips to Europe, and to India and to Africa and the Caribbean resorts. And private jet rides for security, even for family and their hair dressers.
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You know it was very important to have NRA outreach trips to Europe, and to India and to Africa and the Caribbean resorts. And private jet rides for security, even for family and their hair dressers. And anyone not wanting to fund that must love Chuck Schumer lol
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You know it was very important to have NRA outreach trips to Europe, and to India and to Africa and the Caribbean resorts. And private jet rides for security, even for family and their hair dressers. And anyone not wanting to fund that must love Chuck Schumer lol That's what they say.
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NRA needs to clean its house and show some accountability with member's funds. They remind me of Union's with bosses getting most of the benefits.
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75 member board?? I don't think so! FUGG 'EM!! Not one dime!! They're as useless as Republicans! And once the board is gone it will be not one more dime for some other reason. Broke dicks will always find a reason to keep moving the goal posts. lol Look Dude....I was a Life Member in 1955, shot High Powder Rifle Competition for fifty years and dealt with the NRA Competition Division all during that time; over-looking error after error on their part but I continued to support them all during those years. But ever since Pierre has been the head of the organization I can no longer overlook the outright corruption that little Dewayne has done; all apparently OK with the board members good graces! As a consequence of all of this as far as I'm concerned I've already stated....FUGG 'EM!!
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75 member board?? I don't think so! FUGG 'EM!! Not one dime!! They're as useless as Republicans! And once the board is gone it will be not one more dime for some other reason. Broke dicks will always find a reason to keep moving the goal posts. lol The nra crapped their own bed. They may or may not get things corrected, but in the mean time, they're lucky to have John-burns level ambassadors out trying to win back their supporters.
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NRA needs to clean its house and show some accountability with member's funds. They remind me of Union's with bosses getting most of the benefits. Agree 100%! I've been following the trial and some of the testimony, the place is a chit show. The forensic accountant's report is particularly damning. It's telling that they only started to make "some" changes after the the 2020 complaint was filed.
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I'd better hurry and get right on this. Wayne's probably needing a pension check. I'm glad you woke my broke dik up.
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