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Brad, that is my opinion as well. When the Mauser 98 was developed, it was at the behest of wealthy national governments, for national armies, and the cost per unit was not an issue, so naturally Mauser went all out to make something that would hold up to warfare conditions and last several lifetimes of rugged usage. Winchester 70's (pre-64) came the closest to replicating the most desirable of the Mauser 98's features in a sporting rifle. I have about 15 hunting bolt-action rifles. One is a Remington 725 (push feed). Three others are Weatherbies. One is a Blaser (straight pull), and the others are about 50/50 sporting Mausers (FN and BRNO) and CRF Winchester 70s (three of these were made before 64, two being the "Classic" CRF models). I have never had a problem with the push feed rifles, but strangely I have had a problem with one of the CRF rifles. It was on an Elk hunt in the Colorado Rockies, at about 9,000 feet. Somehow, as I attempted to quietly rack one .270 Winchester round from the magazine into the chamber, the round got ahead of the claw and was pushed into the chamber, not under control. I realized this when I was unable to close the bolt, and immediately pulled back on the bolt handle. The round was stuck in there, and my only backup rifle was a day's ride on horseback away, at camp (and my guide was unarmed), and I'd have to climb down a considerable distance just to get to my horse at that, so I tried everything I could to dislodge the round. Finally, my guide was able to do it. He happened to have a three piece cleaning rod in his backpack. Problem solved, and it never happened again, but the CRF is not flawless, at least not in Classic Winchester 70's. Maybe if the mag had been designed just for the .270 Winchester, this wouldn't have happened. I don't know. Just food for thought.

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Well do I have a deal for you! I have a Sako 75 Varmint SS in a laminated stock in 22-250 cal, I don't like the damn thing and I will trade it for a couple of those broken Remingtons. The condition is "as new in the box" So lets see if you want a Sako as bad as you say you do.
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Not sure who your offer is being made to, but like I said, "older Sako's." The M75 definately wouldn't fall into that category. Another "key-start" rifle!
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Big Sky,
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<br>Do you really want another Key Start (J-Lock) rifle?
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<br>I haven't seen the Sako 75 Rifles but would not want a J-Lock of anykind on my rifles. I know you can buy a replacement shroud to remove the bolt lock for a Rem 700.
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<br>I think Blaine hit the nail on the head. You are ready for Custom or semi-custom rifles based on the Rem.700 action.
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<br>Let us know what you decide.....


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I'm not exactly sold on any factory rifle, however, the Remmies have come closer than the others to being right out of the box. I actively shoot 5 of them with pretty good sucess across the board. That said I have gotten a bummer. A stainless fluted Sendero in .300 Win Mag that I traded my brother for. He'd never shot the rifle and it was NIB when I mounted a Leupie on it and headed to the range. Rifle was an honest .5 MOA gun with a 120 second trigger job and making sure the KDF was snug. Upon inspection of the brass I found the rifle had a void in the chamber. That's a chunk of steel missing to you and I. Not enough it would'nt extract but plenty big to draw your attention. Figured I would deep six the barrel and use the action. Closer inspection of the bolt revealed that the very bottom of the bolt head was cracked. Calls to Remington went on and on. They would'nt touch it because of the KDF, McMillan AWR stock, and Jewell trigger. JOY! Sold it.
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<br> Now on to perfection in its earthly form the Winchester M70 Stainless Classic in .375 H&H. The vaunted CRF king needed to kill lions and tigers oh my... The ONLY rifle I've ever owned that WOULD NOT FEED RELIABLEY! It's off at Mr. Ricks where everything is being replaced except the basic action and part of the bolt. Could'nt get it on paper at 50 yards with Talleys and a Leupold 1.75-6x32...
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<br> Have the feeling I'm going to be a custom rifle slut before long... I'll have my ONE AND ONLY Winchester Custom and then work with my Remingtons which shoot too good to screw with. That said I do love McMillan stocks and Jewell triggers... Custom barrels are an aquired taste I'm working on;-).
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I beg your pardon, the Sako 75 is NOT a key start, unless you install the key start parts your self!!
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Dan, you have my pardon.
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<br>www.sako.fi
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<br>Go to "Hunting Rifles." Next, go to "Sako 75", then go to "Key Concept"... it's all there...
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Sure looks like a Key Start to me.......


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What comes next with those key start guns? An engine? [Linked Image]

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The Sako rifle comes from the Finns with a little package of parts you can install, this will turn your rifle into a key start. It is not factory installed. I know as I own some of them.
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<br>I have only witnessed two 700s go bad, a Mountain
<br>rifle in 7MM-08 that wouldnt do anything right, and a
<br>sniper rifle that gave up its bolt handle at a range when
<br>I was stationed in Korea in the late 80s. I do not own
<br>a 700 at the time being, but I have owned a couple of
<br>722s and a 721 that I wish that I would have kept plus
<br>a 788 or two. I cherish the day when the Classic is
<br>chambered for .358 and I am always on the lookout
<br>for a "shooter" in .250 Savage or 7X57MM caliber.
<br>Let us all give good thoughts to Wm Rugers loved
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Wow Blaine, you are one thin-skinned human being...
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<br>Emotional? I'd say you've got the shoe on the wrong foot!
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<br>My God, "personal attacks"... where?
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<br>Unbelievable...


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Yeah, and what about that personal attack against my Remington's heavy trigger and 3.75" groups?!!! Just kidding.

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Hawkeye, you're also forgetting my lawsuit-worthy attack on pot-metal parts, LOL!
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My sister is better looking than your sister. Your sister uses push feed rifles (grin). Flinch


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Blaine,
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<br>Your last post was the most childish thing I've EVER read. Bad day at the office,or what?
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<br>Certainly you are of more substance than that ?!!? Noone is THAT thin-skinned(are they).................


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How do you guys know each other's names?

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Is it not a rather good indicator,that AFP ends every Post with his name(Blaine)?
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<br>My preference is...................


Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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