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After the first seasom of hunting with jacketed slugs for the 45-70. I read an article abour how easy, cheap, and accurate cast slugs were. I've accumulated a half dozen molds over the years and have never shot another jacketed bullet thru either of my 45-70s. A 405 or 445 grain air cooled cast bullet brings down a deer at most any range that you could see still the animal. I've never had leading in either rifle, but then I size the slugs .459. Since I make my own, I don't have to worry about anybody else's production.
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I'm going the cast route too. Got one mold on order right now
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I hardly ever order much less than 500. Cause I weigh and sort them Snake
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I have no interest whatsoever in casting bullets, they are too cheap to order. I have about 250 out of 500 Oregon Trails 405 wide nose flat points on hand.
Cabela's do not list the 405's, they have some 300's on backorder.
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The only downside to Oregon Trail is that they only offer one diameter - .459". Many Marlins need a .460" bullet for proper fit. In the past, since I drive through Baker City, Oregon often, I would order some unsized, unlubed 405gr from Oregon Trail. They ran around .461" and shot fine with my homemade lube.
But I'm still working through 500 Remington 405gr JSP - a very good bullet.
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I can't see any reason to shoot jacketed bullets in the 45-70, unless, of course, you like throwing .25 cents plus every time you shoot. A cast bullet is just as accurate and a whole bunch cheaper!
Jim
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I can't see any reason to shoot jacketed bullets in the 45-70, unless, of course, you like throwing .25 cents plus every time you shoot. A cast bullet is just as accurate and a whole bunch cheaper!
Jim That's almost true. After you've gone through the work of finding the right bullet and load - then yes, it is cheaper and just as accurate.
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I've used the same load for 30 some odd years. All I need do is adjust the reciver sight one or two clicks up or down, left or right.
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I found 190 Remington 405's and a partial box of Hornady 350's on the classifieds and decided to get them. If the rifle likes the Remington's, I will probably switch to Speer 400 SP's, they were not in stock the last I looked.
Jim,
The cost argument can be applied to almost every rifle and load, personally, I don't shoot thousands of 45-70 a year, not even hundreds so the cost of jacketed is not an issue.
What is your cast load?
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Poking an elk instead of a deer might be a good idea for jacketed bullets
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