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Jesse Jackass what a dipchit stupid Black MF'ER

�Bang! Bang! Bang!�

Hear that? It�s the sound of an assault weapon in the hands of a rogue individual, taking down an airplane flying overhead.

At least, that�s what the Reverend Jesse Jackson thinks assault weapons can do. The Reverend�s misinformed assertion that assault weapons are capable of shooting down airplanes came during a Fox News appearance yesterday.

�These semi-automatic weapons, these assault weapons, can only kill people, and in fact, they are threats to national security � the young man who did the killing in Aurora, Colorado � he could shoot down airplanes, so this is a matter of homeland security as well,� he said while speaking about gun control with anchor Martha MacCallum on �America�s Newsroom.� The debate about gun control has permeated the national dialogue ever since the tragic massacre of 26 innocent victims at Sandy Hook Elementary School last month involved a gun.

And about 90% of that "national dialog" is utter BS!

A classic case of someone running off at the mouth about something that they know nothing about

He's not the only idiot that's said that.

He might, could be, on the same stuff his kid is on......

Bearing false witness upon someone else, therefore ruining their reputation and rights in the process, used to be punishable by death in a murder trial.

These [bleep] will rue the day when the rule of law has its retribution.....

I thought that was the sound of the bastid banging Tamara Holder !

Jesse Jackson ought not shoot off his mouth.

Nice diversion, Jesse:

Jackson Subject of Gay Harassment Complaint

A former employee of the Rev. Jesse Jackson Sr. at the Rainbow Push Coalition has filed a bombshell wrongful termination and discrimination complaint against the civil rights leader with the City of Chicago's Commission on Human Rights.

The complaint, filed sometime last year by Tommy R. Bennett, a regular on the Tom Joyner Radio show and member of Barack Obama's LGBT Leadership Council, includes shocking allegations about Jackson's behavior toward the openly gay staffer including an allegation that the civil rights leader propositioned him.

Jackson has denied the allegations in a legal response that was filed in July 2010 and resurfaced when the Windy City Times published a story Tuesday.

Bennett, 55, claims Jackson ridiculed him in front of other employees and required him to perform "humiliating tasks" like escorting women to Jackson's various hotel rooms, cleaning up after alleged trysts and packing his clothing. It also includes an allegation that Jackson asked for oral sex, according to the claim. Jackson flatly denied each claim in his response.

Bennett worked for the Rainbow PUSH Coalition for more than two years as the National Director of Community Affairs. The complaint states that Bennett endured a string of discriminatory treatment from multiple supervisors, but his protests were met with deaf ears.

In 2008, Bennett assumed the duties of Jackson's travel assistant.

In that capacity, Bennett alleges to "clean his [hotel] room after sexual intercourse with women."

Jackson, a former presidential candidate, has been married to his wife, Jacqueline Lavinia Brown, since 1962, but has had bouts with infidelity. One affair with a staffer resulted in the birth of a girl in 1999.

Source: http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/jackson-push-bennett-lawsuit-119861339.html#ixzz2IXehPEhb

Thats all that JJ has ever done, well that and [bleep] around on his wife.

He might be right......picture this, jet liner flying over head, flock of geese above said jetliner......bang3 and three greater geese fall to earth because the shooter missed the jet by not leading it nearly enough......jet circles for landing and sucks the falling geese into one of the engines and flames out.......

Don't you know that when a 223 is fired from an AR15 it is a super powered bullet capable of most anything? Jeez, just listen to the president or the talking heads on the evening news.

Ernie

He sounds even dumber when you talk to him personally. He and his Afrosheen Coalition used to charter one of the Falcon Jets we had available for 135, and they ruined the ultrasuede headliner with that crap they put in their hair. Perfect stripe right down the middle of the ceiling.
We billed 'em for the damage to the interior; not sure if they ever did pay.
One of his buddies thinks Guam would tip over if everyone ran to one side.....

He's a a jackass.

That said, I think an M1A or AR10-type weapon could take down a plane, if the shooter set up on flight paths where the altitude was low, like near an airport.

Gotta be honest, guys. Doesn't help our side one iota to be disingenuous ourselves.

wonder if ole Jessie is keeping up with his child support payments for his illegitimate child ......

You know, the one that was in the oven while he was providing council to bill Clinton .....

What a pos....

Tony

Yes, technically it could assuming everything were just about perfect but so could a rock under the right conditions and even pigeons. So I guess you could be correct in stating that even pigeon can take down airplanes...they are a threat to national security.

I'm not saying that.

I'm saying a semi-auto .308 can do a chitload of damage. Ever shot up a car with one? I have.

If low enough i could shoot it down with my muzzleloader and patched round ball

Don't laugh its quite possible specially with a 7.62 platform and large mags..Some whacko at a strategic point in the pattern especially on close final could do a number on an airliner.Probable?..not likely but still a possibility and no I could care less about Jesse just stating a fact as I've been on the receiving end before..

Taliban shoot at planes and helicopters 24/7 using full auto real assault rifles. What is their success rate?????????????? Does an individual unless they have a special license own a full auto assault rifle? It's all about Power and seizing it, they fell for the idiocy hook line and sinker and evidently still have not learned.

Your campaign to re-create yourself in the image of a 2nd amendment supporter after voting for Obama is losing momentum. However, keep struggling to get back on the right side of the fence, the entertainment value is priceless. Especially when you see yourself as now being the moral compass and legal strategist for the pro-gun movement.

Isn't it about time for you to "move on"?

1000 feet altitude is ~ 330 yards.

Yeah, I could [bleep] up a civilian plane at 330 yards with a scoped semi-auto .308.

Magic bullets that down aircraft don't need to be from a full automatic weapon.

It would be a lucky shot to shoot down a jet with a AR15 . More Luck than Skill

CarpandBitch,

I've been a strong and vocal supporter of the 2nd for a long time, much longer than you've been snapping at my ankles. Want to see a letter to the editor (Register-Guard) from, I dunno, 10-15 years ago that I wrote?

A Jet moving at a couple hundred miles per hour at three hundred yards would be dam hard to connect with and bring it down unless you where just dam lucky using a 308 or 223 , only a 7.62x39.

Post your obama ballot also.

+1000

Here is a guy that knowingly ignored Obamas gun record prior to being president voted for the [bleep] and now all of a sudden is trying to be Charlton Heston.

Well. First, who specified a jet? I didn't see that in the OP, nor did I say it. Second, if you hang out near an airport you'll see just how easy a target CIVILIAN planes who are NOT evading anything would be. Third, choose your angle such that they aren't crossing at 90 degrees.

The sick thing is, it'll probably happen at some point.

Changing the subject IS a time-honored Internet debate tactic.

Ft Hood Shooter - Registered Democrat.
Columbine - both families were progressive liberal Democrats.
Virginia Tech Shooter - Registered Democrat - Wrote hate mail to Bush.
Connecticut School Shooter - Registered Democrat; hated Christians.
Colorado Theater Shooter - progressive liberal Democrat; staff worker for the Obama campaign; Occupy Wall Street!

Jessy Jackson is like the rest of the gun to take away lovers .They don't know about what they talk about an the thought are full of weed they smoke when they were younger Brains for [bleep] they got

Landing and take off speeds of course vary with individual commercial aircraft be it prop or fan but are way under 200 mph,more like 120-160 knots. Airliners aren't designed to shed bullets like military AC and don't have a bunch of built-in redundant systems for combat situations.The airframe skin itself in many places is only .063 thick hardly enough to shed any bullet strategically placed.

....and voting record in prior Presidential elections. Bet we'd see more Dems than everything else combined.

Is it just my imagination, or is Jesse Jackson's eyes gettin' farther apart?

If it keeps up, his eyes gonna be all bugged out on the side of his head and he's gonna look like one o'them Black Molly fish that you can buy down to the dime store fer 79 cents.

Ha! Priceless!

A potato gun if the shot were well placed could take down a small jet. I would wager that it is damn near impossible to take down a commercial jet with an AR-15 and one mag. An AR-10 with one mag...I wouldn't bet on it. Yes the Afghan have taken down helicopters. I think you will find that they had more than one full-auto AK to do so.
I pencil CAN kill you as can a spoon if properly placed. I don't see very many rational people claiming this to be FACT and reasonable justification to ban pencils and spoons. Stating that JJ is licking toad by making the "shoot down plane" statement is not disingenuous in the least bit.
You have torn up a parked car with a .308. Yeah okay. 0 mph is pretty close to 100+ knots.

Yeah, well,...a well placed KFC chicken bone can take down Jesse Jackson.

Yeah,...he could be sittin' there suckin' own a wing,...a bone gets crossways in his throat,..and if Shaq ain't there to do that Hime-lick thing on him,....old Jesse's ass is a memory!

Sorry but he hasn't changed the subject. The subject is protecting the 2nd amendment, fact is your supported and voted for obama a candidate that clear had an anti gun slant, which was reason enough to vote against him

Anybody ever tell you that just one"AWWW [bleep]!" can wipe out a whole train load of "ATTA BOYS!"?Well it's true.

Be sure to brief me on how many times you've almost been taken out by hostile ground fire from a single weapon at over 500 meters.. I'm all ears.

Oy! Again with the commercial jets and military situations.

Tearing up a car with a semi-auto .308, which I take it you have not done, is not notable because of the speed of the parked car. It's notable because of the damage the bullets do to little unimportant things like, oh, engine blocks, engine accessories, and need I mention any and all controls and linkages.

Fortunately I have been able to do wonderful and fun things with 5.56, 7.62, .50 cal, even 4.2" mortars and composition explosives. In order for that damage to be done you must FIRST and FOREMOST be able to hit your target and then hit it in the "right" spot. A pencil can kill you but given that FACT I don't see them being used very often as an offensive or defensive weapons.

Have you ever watched a battery of quad mounted 20MM cannon trying to shoot down an RC plane with a 6 foot wingspan at ranges less than 500 meters? It took more than a few tries. Hitting moving targets is not that easy. Hitting them where it counts is even harder.

So as I said, it could happen but to state it as fact is pushing it.

Dream on it isn't that hard..

Hmmm. I think back to WWI when aircraft were a bit flimsier and slower and the general move towards twin or multi-gun mounts using Lewis, Vickers, Spandau et.al. to more effectively engage aircraft and will stand by my statements.

Lacking any statistics evidence of the efficacy of a single, semi-automatic weapon to effectively engage and bring down an aircraft I will rely on my personal observations. You are of course at liberty to validate and or corroborate JJ's statement of fact to your heart's content.

DC-3/C-47 aren't really hardened aircraft and have taken quite a number of larger caliber hits and continued to fly.

I think if it was very doable at all, then all the full-auto terrorists of the world would have been gettin' it done on a regular basis by now.

I certainly don't disagree and I'm not siding with JJ's pile on statement after the fact just stating some actual experience that it's not just blind luck but a real possibility to shoot down an airliner..God forbid it ever happens.

Yeah, that [bleep] has a monstrous forehead, would be to easy really.

Gunner

We'd be celebrating James Earl Ray day tomorrow, had he been slick enough to break another shot and get Jessie after he shot MLK.

That's just evidence of "POLITICAL EVOLUTION".You see, because of his years in POLITICS,he's had to evolve so's he can see who's slippin' up behind him.Before you know it,he'll have eyes in the back of his head.

FlyBoyFlem,

I wouldn't dismiss possibility either. My initial response was directed to the comment that folks were being disingenuous when arguing against JJ's statement about shooting down planes. JJ did not couch his statement that it was within the realm of possibility but rather spoke of it as an everyday fact and capability. These guns can bring down planes. These pencils can kill someone. Both statements are in the realm of possibility. Most folks recognize the latter statement about pencils as not being very probable. Unfortunately, when high visibility people open their mouths about guns as in the former case too many folks do not know what is possible versus what is probable.

JJ was disingenuous in his statement.

I appreciate that you are debating this politely, by the way. A rarity around here. Well done.

I've had two different occasions to hang out near airports in my life. In both cases pre-911 so maybe things are different now. Both times, the planes came over low and slow.... At any rate, considering that the only elements at play are lead and drop..... I'm pretty certain I could put multiple hits on the engine of a plane taking off or landing. If it was with say my DPMS LR308 I'm pretty sure those hits would be devastating.

Gunner

When i worked in the Hospital and they offered me Nagger Day off i refused and worked and told them to give it to someone else who wanted off on that day.

Could you do the same with a Remington 742 (a non "assualt rifle")???? Could you put a 200gr. Barnes into an engine with a 300 RUM bolt action???? Jackson was trying to vilify one class of firearm, when in reality, nearly ANY firearm could be used for the same purpose. Imagine what would happen if someone stole a Peterbuilt with a trailer loaded with flammables and put it into a stadium full of people. I could sit here and come up with stupid "what if" scenarios all day. That doesn't mean that there should be laws regulating 18 wheelers any more than there need to be laws regulating certain firearms. Jackson was trying to create a boogey man, while what he said was true to some extent, it was not solely applicable to those firearms that idiots call assualt weapons. He was being... disingenuous.

And you can take a [bleep] if you eat regular...

Jeff O,

That is possible. Many people are surprised the first time they try.

Again, the gist is not whether it is possible by the vilification of an inanimate object by a political opportunist. With that type of logic we should also be concerned about pencils, cars, swimming pools, etc. JJ despises racism and bigotry yet has been publicly caught doing both. Remember the Hymie-town remark? JJ also portends to carry the mantle of MLK. Regardless of what you think of MLK the notion of judging a man by his character isn't bad nor is MLK's realization and practice of arming himself to protect his family even when govt and PD thought otherwise.

When i was growing up in the early sixty's , they used to announce on the Radio, please don't shoot at the airplanes they aren't looking for Stills

I agree completely that Jackson was talking out his ass, especially in regards to AR15's.

My one, simple point of debate here is (was) that some "assault rifles" (sic) could indeed be effective against civilian aircraft. Since we have a combat pilot concurring I think I'll just bow out now. Thanks for the words, gents.

This plays well with the low information voter.