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Good response. Cops carry as many bullets as is practically possible because they may need them. To think that somebody else might not need them is just stupid.

What if a Mexican drug cartel hit squad mistakes your house for the house of their intended target? With a six round magazine, you had better be a good shot and make EVERY shot count.

That is a great tactic.

You can't explain why you feel the way you feel?


Travis

Marty you can try to use logic on a libtard but it is like beating your head against the wall. You will just get a headache

IF you can get him to listen without him running his mouth hysterically you may have a chance.

Using logic and reason with these idiots never works, I have found a good solid GFY keep them from bringin it up in the future.

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The answer I've used is simply that police response may be up to 20 to 30 minutes away, and I'm very likely restricted to the rounds loaded in the gun. Bad guys don't always just run away when they see a gun or have that first shot fired, especially if they're stoned out of their gourd.

Another argument I've used is that if their teenage daughter is grabbed by 8 drunks and pulled into a dark alley, do they want the rescuer who happens to be walking by to be carrying a 6 round revolver or a 17 round 9mm semi-auto?

+1

I havent done this in a long while, but for years my answer to all things liberal was to take them shooting. Guns are fun. They arent dirty (well, my ML are but i digress...) and they arent bad or mean.

Worked wonders, but i wonder if it still worked. How many still see the light?

My favorite response these days is that it isnt about need. You dont need 6 cylinders, you dont need 3000 calories a day, you dont need a 6 pack per week, you dont need much of anything...

It isnt about need. It is about individual liberty, and once its gone it doesnt come back.

Let me guess, he drives a monster truck?

Ask him why any one needs a bass boat, a Porsche, a summer home, or a 6 bedroom house?

There's really no need for them..............folks just want them

+1 wyote. Take away something he has and see him squeal. Hurts when it is your property they are taking. Tell him every shooter was a demo so we should outlaw demo's.

First ask him to define "need"

He'll give you some bullshit definition that includes some kind of "extreme hardship"

Then ask him why women "need" the right to an abortion when they can give a baby up for adoption after they give birth

Then ask him why criminals "need" a jury trial in cases where the evidence is overwhelmingly against them

Then ask him why we "need" to allow voting without requiring I.D.

Then ask him why black people "need" to be able to ride at the front of a bus




Of course, the answer to all of those questions, including the magazine ban one, is that "need" is an undefinable term that depends solely on the person in the situation, and the only justification that "needs" to be given is that it is our constitutional right

He may not "need" a hi cap magazine, but then again, as a man, I don't "need" the right to an abortion. That doesn't mean they don't exist.

Just ask him if he NEEDS all his teeth to suck pea soup through a [bleep] straw.

Gunner

You need it in case more than 10 liberals like him try to take it away.

I like that one.

Also advise him that since LE has no responsibility for your safety, and you are responsible for your own, why is it he feels you should not be equipped with the same tools as LE to deal with a potential threat.

And of course there's the real argument that these tools are the best ones to deal with a tyranical government...the real basis for the 2nd.



This also works sometimes. Once they get out and actually shoot a gun with a knowledgeable person, they seem much more open to discussing them logically and listening with interest to what you have to say. I have a friend (worked together for years, good guy, so it was inevitable we hung out, but he is a libtard) who was very anti-gun. His sister committed suicide with one, and that was largely (other than his political leaning) the reason he was so much against them. Another buddy and I took him shooting once. He is always asking when we are going again. He's been out with us a dozen times now, and much to the shock and dismay of his family, has even brought his 14 year old daughter along lately. I taught her to shoot just as I did him. She loves it, and is quite the good shot. Both are very interested in it now, and he has really changed his tune on guns and gun control. Still can't get him to stop voting for Obama, but small steps!

Here is the position I take with my liberal coworkers about this issue.

There is no meaningful disadvantage to a bad guy restricting him to 10 rd mags. Magazines are very fast to swap, anybody with shooting experience understands this. A bad guy that is prepared and wanting to shoot up a bunch of people can walk in with a bag full of 10rd mags and be at no disadvantage.

Meanwhile the only real line of defense against these shooters is the good citizens with a concealed handgun. Since by nature, the good guys are law abiding, they will only have a 10rd mag in their pistol to take down the bad guy. Most people that carry concealed do not carry multiple magazines as they are that much harder to conceal and they don't carry a bag full of spares like the bad guy.

So just like all the other feelgood ineffective restrictions, you are only making the problem worse by restricting the capability of the good guys. To add that, any possible ban on mags will only result in the good guy following the law and the bad guy will not. There are literally millions of high cap mags in circulation, so the bad guys will most likely have them even if they are completely illegal.

AMEN

Inviting a hardcore anti-gunner to go shooting may seem like a great idea, but it would be like him offering you a snort of cocaine - the offer's not gonna be accepted. He'd say something like, "I've never touched a gun and never will."