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Originally Posted by Tom264
This is not directed at anyone in particular but those of you that think hell is eternal are gravely mistaken, all things created have to have an end and hell is created therefore will have an end.......don't know when or how long but when that happens Satan and his followers will cease to exist.

Sorry for the bad news..


Do you believe in God's infinite love but not in eternal damnation?


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Originally Posted by Tom264
This is not directed at anyone in particular but those of you that think hell is eternal are gravely mistaken, all things created have to have an end and hell is created therefore will have an end.......don't know when or how long but when that happens Satan and his followers will cease to exist.

Sorry for the bad news..


Same must go for heaven, earth, & God's people then? You didn't mention that?

Don't want to be accused of being a Bible thumper but to be fair.
Luke 21:33


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so it was a trick question

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Originally Posted by GeoW
Originally Posted by Tom264
This is not directed at anyone in particular but those of you that think hell is eternal are gravely mistaken, all things created have to have an end and hell is created therefore will have an end.......don't know when or how long but when that happens Satan and his followers will cease to exist.

Sorry for the bad news..


Do you believe in God's infinite love but not in eternal damnation?
in a sense to be seperated from God would be eternal so I believe in both in that sense but hell is for a time and will be destroyed at some point.
I'm saying hell is not eternal because nothing of satan is eternal.


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As are your decisions or anyone else's.


I don't think we're far off in these things, other than I find it hard to believe it's an accident.




Neither do I.



I believe there is something greater out there but I'm not going to let man and his common theme of fear make me believe his version.


If I'm wrong, I've accepted the consequences.


Nothing wrong with that, it's probably close to the truth... whatever the truth is... no man can claim to know for sure... and there's nothing wrong with that either.

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This is not directed at anyone in particular but those of you that think hell is eternal are gravely mistaken, all things created have to have an end and hell is created therefore will have an end.......don't know when or how long but when that happens Satan and his followers will cease to exist.

Sorry for the bad news..


Same must go for heaven, earth, & God's people then? You didn't mention that?

Don't want to be accused of being a Bible thumper but to be fair.
Luke 21:33

Might be getting you "Heaven" and "heavens" mixed up...

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Thanks. I say angelic, 'cause sometimes you have to reconcile the fact that you can be hard and still be a servant of God.


Yep. If you study up on angels you will find they are never mentioned as feminine or having wings. There was a reason the first thing the angel told the shepherds was "Fear not".


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Originally Posted by GeoW
Originally Posted by Tom264
This is not directed at anyone in particular but those of you that think hell is eternal are gravely mistaken, all things created have to have an end and hell is created therefore will have an end.......don't know when or how long but when that happens Satan and his followers will cease to exist.

Sorry for the bad news..


Do you believe in God's infinite love but not in eternal damnation?
Being dead forever is eternal damnation, according to Dr Arnold Murray of Shepards Chapel.

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Originally Posted by Ken Howell
I'm perfectly content to let Jesus decide � not all the "I am" claimants nor any of the self-appointed "you ain't" judgers.

How many ways into the kingdom of God are there? Here too, I'm perfectly content to let only Him decide. I'm pretty sure that others' opinions don't overrule His decrees regarding the matter.

I don't recall that He was ever reticent about either matter, either.

But those are just a couple of my opinions.
I'd like to meet you some day Mr. Howell. You seem to be a man of great integrity and that's something I have a great deal of admiration for. May God Bless You and your family.

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Originally Posted by Tom264
This is not directed at anyone in particular but those of you that think hell is eternal are gravely mistaken, all things created have to have an end and hell is created therefore will have an end.......don't know when or how long but when that happens Satan and his followers will cease to exist.

Sorry for the bad news..


Same must go for heaven, earth, & God's people then? You didn't mention that?

Don't want to be accused of being a Bible thumper but to be fair.
Luke 21:33

Might be getting you "Heaven" and "heavens" mixed up...
no I'm not......


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Originally Posted by Tom264
all things created have to have an end
Our souls were created, yet we're to believe they are immortal.

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I have, he is. Make the trip, it is worth it.


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Originally Posted by Tom264

I'm saying hell is not eternal because nothing of satan is eternal.
Keep in mind the difference between eternal (of which only God is) and immortal, of which are the angels and our souls.

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Originally Posted by Ken Howell
I'm perfectly content to let Jesus decide � not all the "I am" claimants nor any of the self-appointed "you ain't" judgers.

How many ways into the kingdom of God are there? Here too, I'm perfectly content to let only Him decide. I'm pretty sure that others' opinions don't overrule His decrees regarding the matter.

I don't recall that He was ever reticent about either matter, either.

But those are just a couple of my opinions.


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Originally Posted by krp
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Nothing wrong with that, it's probably close to the truth... whatever the truth is... no man can claim to know for sure... and there's nothing wrong with that either.

Kent




To be clear, I have nothing against anyone who believes in a specific higher being and I really hope they find the eternal salvation they're looking for. Whatever it may be.


I've just chosen a different path. Right or wrong.

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Originally Posted by Tom264
Originally Posted by GeoW
Originally Posted by Tom264
This is not directed at anyone in particular but those of you that think hell is eternal are gravely mistaken, all things created have to have an end and hell is created therefore will have an end.......don't know when or how long but when that happens Satan and his followers will cease to exist.

Sorry for the bad news..


Do you believe in God's infinite love but not in eternal damnation?
in a sense to be seperated from God would be eternal so I believe in both in that sense but hell is for a time and will be destroyed at some point.
I'm saying hell is not eternal because nothing of satan is eternal.
His torment will... �Then He will also say to those on the left hand, �Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels: Mat 25:41


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Originally Posted by rrroae
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As are your decisions or anyone else's.


I don't think we're far off in these things, other than I find it hard to believe it's an accident.




Neither do I.



I believe there is something greater out there but I'm not going to let man and his common theme of fear make me believe his version.


If I'm wrong, I've accepted the consequences.


We're basically on the same page. IMHO, a man's religous beliefs are the most personal thing in the world. Your actions mean everything... your words nothing...unless your words discourage somebody else from doing the right thing. I am way too small to judge.


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Originally Posted by rrroae
Originally Posted by ltppowell
Originally Posted by rrroae
As are your decisions or anyone else's.


I don't think we're far off in these things, other than I find it hard to believe it's an accident.


Neither do I.

I believe there is something greater out there but I'm not going to let man and his common theme of fear make me believe his version.

If I'm wrong, I've accepted the consequences.


Fair enough. But what if God has tried to communicate to us so we would know him. What would that communication look like?


and what does the Lord require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God? (Micah 6:8)

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Originally Posted by ltppowell
.....IMHO, a man's religous beliefs are the most personal thing in the world. Your actions mean everything... your words nothing...unless your words discourage somebody else from doing the right thing. I am way too small to judge.




I respect that tremendously.

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Thanks. I say angelic, 'cause sometimes you have to reconcile the fact that you can be hard and still be a servant of God.


Yep. If you study up on angels you will find they are never mentioned as feminine or having wings. There was a reason the first thing the angel told the shepherds was "Fear not".
Scott, some angels were described as having wings, e.g., "Above it stood the seraphims: each one had six wings ..." Isaiah 6:2

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