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Gun show this weekend and I'm planning on looking at some .32acp pocket guns for times when I really don't want to know it's there. Now I don't know crap about the good, the bad and the ugly of these guns except what I've seen on some recent threads (here and elsewhere). Asking as much for what to avoid as what to get. About the only thing I do know is PPK's, 1903's, CZ's, etc are too big for what I'm wanting (which sorry to say also crosses revolvers off my list cept the Mini's which I have trouble using with any efficiency) What say you?
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Kel-Tec is good. Check out local gun stores, too. I often see a used one in .32, tucked between a couple in .380.
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Seriously, a Ruger LCP is very hard to notice its there
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Having carried a Kel-Tec P32 (.32 Auto) in my front jeans pocket for a few years, I'd recommend getting either the Kel-Tec P3AT or Ruger LCP, both .380's.
Reasons are: Size difference is negligible, where the P32 disappears into a pocket so will either .380. .380 gives a little more oomph. Disregarding the current ammo shortages, even in "normal" times .32 ammo is more scarce than .380 and is much more expensive due to the lesser demand.
My current pocket pistol is a Kahr CM9 - Concealed Micro 9 - and it technically does fit into my pocket but it is definitely larger than either of the .380's mentioned.
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Having carried a Kel-Tec P32 (.32 Auto) in my front jeans pocket for a few years, I'd recommend getting either the Kel-Tec P3AT or Ruger LCP, both .380's.
Reasons are: Size difference is negligible, where the P32 disappears into a pocket so will either .380. .380 gives a little more oomph. Disregarding the current ammo shortages, even in "normal" times .32 ammo is more scarce than .380 and is much more expensive due to the lesser demand.
My current pocket pistol is a Kahr CM9 - Concealed Micro 9 - and it technically does fit into my pocket but it is definitely larger than either of the .380's mentioned. Jim hit all of the points I was going to type..... <g> A P3AT with Buffalo Bore +P+ 100gr FNHC's in a significant weapon, dissapears into about any pocket, and is tough and reliable. No reason to go with a .32 whn 380's are the same size and the Buff BOre ammo makes them into a whole 'nutha ani-mule.
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While I have all the pocket pistol peps in one spot how accessable is a weapon concealed in your front pocket? I can understand how it is great to carry it there but what about getting to it in a dynamic confrontation? Can you get to it if your running, on the ground etc? Forgive me if this sounds basic but I have never carried in a pocket and have always gone with something inside the waist of at least a glock 19 size. I can only imagine being on the ground or otherwise having a leg bent up and blocking access to your piece.
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[quote=Chris Brice]Gun show this weekend and I'm planning on looking at some .32acp pocket guns for times when I really don't want to know it's there. Now I don't know crap about the good, the bad and the ugly of these guns except what I've seen on some recent threads (here and elsewhere). Asking as much for what to avoid as what to get. About the only thing I do know is PPK's, 1903's, CZ's, etc are too big for what I'm wanting (which sorry to say also crosses revolvers off my list cept the Mini's which I have trouble using with any efficiency) What say you? [/] Ruger LCP
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They are very difficult to access in a front pants pocket when seated, such as at a table. Not impossible, but you have to straighten your leg to get to it. When entering a car it's better to take it out unobtrusively and have a place to store it with easy access, each vehicle will vary about that.
When walking or standing, however, you can have your hand on the butt of the pistol and it looks like the most natural thing in the world. When your hand comes out the pistol comes out with it.
There are proponents of various types of carry and many of them will try to denigrate every other style except their own. I think each person should assess their own needs and make their own decisions.
I do have a Crossbreed IWB for the Kahr .45 and 9mm's but sometimes the 9mm in the pocket is a better choice for whatever reason. It all depends.
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Gun show this weekend and I'm planning on looking at some .32acp pocket guns for times when I really don't want to know it's there. Now I don't know crap about the good, the bad and the ugly of these guns except what I've seen on some recent threads (here and elsewhere). Asking as much for what to avoid as what to get. About the only thing I do know is PPK's, 1903's, CZ's, etc are too big for what I'm wanting (which sorry to say also crosses revolvers off my list cept the Mini's which I have trouble using with any efficiency) What say you? The Seecamp is well known to be the Rolls Royce of pocket .32 ACP pistols.
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They are very difficult to access in a front pants pocket when seated, such as at a table. Not impossible, but you have to straighten your leg to get to it. When entering a car it's better to take it out unobtrusively and have a place to store it with easy access, each vehicle will vary about that.
When walking or standing, however, you can have your hand on the butt of the pistol and it looks like the most natural thing in the world. When your hand comes out the pistol comes out with it.
There are proponents of various types of carry and many of them will try to denigrate every other style except their own. I think each person should assess their own needs and make their own decisions.
I do have a Crossbreed IWB for the Kahr .45 and 9mm's but sometimes the 9mm in the pocket is a better choice for whatever reason. It all depends.
Thanks Jim, I had often wondered about access while sitting, especially what to do with it in a vehicle. I have always been uneasy about taking a pistol off me and was wondering how everyone got around that.
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OK, here's the answer....... 32 ACP, you can see it has all the holster that is needed attached to it. Weight's about the same as a Clark bar, not a pocket Pistol, stick in your drawers with the clip. For maximum results, when some dude has a hold of your shirt, stick in his face and pull the trigger! Repeat as necessary!
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I love my BERETTA 3032, 32 ACP, INOX, 'TOMCAT'.
Not the lightest, not the thinnest ... just the 'best'.
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The Seecamp is well known to be the Rolls Royce Rambler Nash of pocket .32 ACP pistols. Jayzus Christmas, guys! Gimme a farking break here! You're seriously arguing the relative effectiveness of a puzzy caliber like the 32? Jayzus! Go do some needlework, gentlemen.
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I do dig my .32 ACP. No plans to shoot people with it, though. It's just a fun gun, and its nostalgia factor makes it that much more cool to me. It belonged to my grandfather.
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The Seecamp is well known to be the Rolls Royce Rambler Nash of pocket .32 ACP pistols. Jayzus Christmas, guys! Gimme a farking break here! You're seriously arguing the relative effectiveness of a puzzy caliber like the 32? Jayzus! Go do some needlework, gentlemen. That's just plain ole mean, Doc! Us old ladies gotta have some thing to argue about...... I totally agree on the SeeCamp, though! I had one of the first ones in this area when they first came out & it was Definately a Piece of [bleep] ! Paid $600 big 'ones for it and it was a jamm-omatic deluxe! Sent it back a couple of times to the factory for warranty & it would still jam even with the WW Silvertips it was supposed to feed. Traded it even steven for a S&W J frame Ti .38 & never looked back! Have to admit I did buy a KelTec .32 for the old lady several years ago when they first came out. It works flawlessly & is actually quite fun to shoot for a mouse gun
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Gimme a farking break here! You're seriously arguing the relative effectiveness of a puzzy caliber like the 32? Seems that some people here lack any sense of perspective! If someone else desires a 32 caliber pistol for whatever reason - Why bless their soul. They may even get to Heaven sooner ....
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Jim, I carry my PM9 in my pocket now, the LCP works fine but the trigger is not as good as the PM9. Trying to find another Kahr 380. I agree its hard to get out of your pocket when seated, puts you at a disadvantage. Maybe we should keep a 380 in our pocket and the 9mm behind the hip, two is probably a good number.
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Thanks Jim, I had often wondered about access while sitting, especially what to do with it in a vehicle. I have always been uneasy about taking a pistol off me and was wondering how everyone got around that.
For a vehicle, consider wearing an empty ankle holster to use for the pocket gun when seated in a vehicle. That way you don't have to go with off body carry and accidentally leave it in the car. Restaurants and offices are a different problem, but vehicles are a particular issue because of the seat design and seat belts. In places other than a vehicle, it is not that difficult to slouch a little bit and get a firing grip on the gun while it is in your pocket.
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