My son and I used to go and 1pt would get you drawn for archery so we could go every other year. Then it got to where it took 2 or 3pts (this is in zone 5) so we started applying for shotgun season in Dec instead. The only time you can hunt the rut (mid Nov) is if you hunt with a bow. And the peak of the rut in Iowa is an awesome time, but I am just too old to wait 2 or 3 years between hunts but YMMV.