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Sounds like congress to me.

So long as you paided the shipping, its alright.

I even told the counter girl, from time to time what it was to see what they would do, and they did nothing, not even a word. Just weighed it, take my money and place it on the belt.

NOT TRUE. We've discussed this at length previously. Small amounts -- under 100 pounds -- don't require any permitting.

UPS and Federal Express, on the other hand, have a policy requiring all powder shipments to be charged their arbitrary HAZMAT fee by a shipper who has obtained a "license" administered by them.

This is just like UPS and Federal Express hammering everyone with that "next day" bullshit on handguns.

OK, why then does www.speedeedelivery.com/ charge the same haz mat fee? For a company that wants to take a bite out of the big boys, it would be the perfect opportunity to have cheaper rates to send powder/primers w/o the upcharge, yet they also charge the fee, although it is less than the $27.50 the others charge.....

Is this your f*cking "proof?" Citing another shipping company's policy?

Give me a f*cking break.

[bleep] you dickhead, it was a valid goddam question, that you prefer to ignore. Answer it or shut the [bleep] up, you mutha [bleep]' cock suckin' piece of [bleep].....

Valid in what way? No company wants to be sucked in to any association with any high profile shooting and is therefore going to try and limit their liability with respect to firearms. Citing another company's policy doesn't prove [bleep].

God dammit answer the [bleep] question....don't give me that not wanting to deal in firearms related bullshitt....I've ordered a lot of powder/primers from a company in Iowa that always ships Speedy when it's in their area, cheaper and faster. Their fee was $10 when the big two charged $20.00.

Again....

If a relatively small mid-west company wants to extend their territory and customer base, why would they charge a haz mat fee if it's really only a UPS/FedEx policy?

So is a Haz/mat license issued by the goverment on the local, state, or federal level? NO, its UPS and Fed Ex trying to make extra money off of you. So if its a license and issued by the goverment were do I apply? If it is a license issued by the goverment, why can speedeedeleivery.com be cheaper? Bricktop hit it on the head with UPS and Fed Ex's bullsh!t on nextday shipping handguns, you pay there bullsh!t $25.00 fee if you ship a handhun across town or across the country. Its a big rip off thats why I use the USPS for shipping handguns

Maybe if your going to pipe up, how 'bout you answer my question?

Why wouldnt speedeedeivery.com charge you a per say hazmat fee? they know you cant ship by USPS and they know UPS and Fed Ex charges $20.00 so why not get on the band wagon and make alittle extra $$ too. What is the defference if you ship powder or ammo, ammo dont require a haz/mat. In my book a case of ammo in a fire is must more worst that a case of powder unless its black powder.

If you had a shipping company and see that UPS and Fed Ex is making 27.50 off a haz/mat wouldnt you do the same if you started a shipping company??

Stop speculating.....you'd gain more customers by not charging any at all.

true but there in the bussiness to make money too and if someone else gets extorted money on a trumped up fee why cant they. I just shipped powder yesterday by UPS Ground, went in fill out a shipping lable on there PC, put it on the scale, paided the shipping cost and out the door I went, didnt say it was powder this time but I have from time to time to see what they would say or do, and nothing was said or added to my shipping cost.

This so called hazmat fee was created by common carriers for the extra precautions of handling of hazardous materials. they can charge what ever they want, the money goes into their coffers. FMCSA does not get one red cent of that money. If a UPS truck gets into an accident, and DOT discovers they have a reportable quantity that isn't properly documented, they are the ones in trouble. It is on their truck, they are responsible for what they carry across the highways. Its capitalism, they can charge whatever the market will bear, and it seems $27 bucks is the number.

I could give a flying [bleep] what you do or how you do it.

I asked a simple question and only get shuck and jive.....

You tell them lover! Don't let them give you any lip because of your lifestyle. We were born this way, it wasn't a choice. Now hurry up and come home to daddy.

For God sake, if you guys want to debate hazmat fee's do it somewhere else. Have a little respect for someones post. You guys are acting like a bunch of kids. Take you ball and go play somewhere esle!!!

How can I answer a question on what somebody or company does, I cant.