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I use a J.P. Murray carbine- load is 580 grain home-cast minie bullet over 74 grains of FFG. Recoil gets your attention but it makes a big hole and I have never had an elk travel further than 100 yards after impact. Then again I don't take a shot unless I am cloise - as in under 100 yards - and fifty is better.
Terry
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What twist and make barrel are you shooting them in? And exactly the powder range I ran last year with a 410 Hornady. Tough to find something that can stop that load.
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I'll tell what I saw one time that I have tried to figure out for years. The first big bull I killed was in Co. Shot it with a great gun- 270 why mag- Japan, 24 in light barrel, with Federal cartridge with bear claw bullet.
He was a big 5x5 with 15 or so cows east and up high from Vallecita (sp) lake a few miles.
He had a big broad head buried in the spine at the lumbar/tenderloin level that was totally healed. There was an open hole in his side just behind the back edge of the shoulder and about 8-9 in. above the bottom of the chest. It was barely draining a little pus and was almost healed with a dark cartilege like fibrous material that encompassed a big 54 cal. lead hollow base ML slug that had mostly flattened and stopped at the rib. I have in my mind that it was also a HP, but can't remember for sure.
Was the hunter far away and held high for a perfect hit or what happened to keep the bullet from going through the heart.
I wonder if the guy who shot him the year before knows he made a perfect shot, except for centering a rib.
Last edited by eyeball; 04/08/13.
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Campfire 'Bwana
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No telling. The bullet could have passed through another elk and hit yours. It's hard to believe a 400-500 grain bullet would be stopped by a rib at any respectable distance.
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Yea, a real weird deal for sure.
The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time by the blood of patriots and tyrants.
If being stupid allows me to believe in Him, I'd wish to be a retard. Eisenhower and G Washington should be good company.
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