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Where does the 300 Whisper fall #7750314 05/19/13
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OP 219Zipper Campfire Member 2 Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 287 Rural northern Minnesota	categorywise, in your book? Do you consider it a custom, a prima donna, conventional, it isn't a wildcat by most standards, is it? I am curious what most of you think of it, or don't.

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Re: Where does the 300 Whisper fall 219Zipper #7750326 05/19/13
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EddyBo Campfire Tracker Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 4,210 SW MS	Category 5 on the fun meter if running them suppressed.

Re: Where does the 300 Whisper fall EddyBo #7750330 05/19/13
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OP 219Zipper Campfire Member 2 Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 287 Rural northern Minnesota	I asked because I am picking up a S & W in the 300/300 this week and I think I am going to like it. Alot.

Re: Where does the 300 Whisper fall 219Zipper #7750373 05/19/13
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257heaven Campfire Ranger 2 Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 18,854 The LBK......TX	Gaining popularity now due to the release of the 300 AAC Blackout, which is the same cartridge by AAC with props given to JD Jones. It's what caused me to finally get off my azz and order a suppressor. Been waiting a few weeks shy of 6 months now and expect my stamp any day now. Brass is not too easy to create from 223, and it's backordered like everything else is. I have 1000 cases and am expecting 2000 more that I ordered in December. The AR will be fun with 220 Gr subsonic loads suppressed as well as lighter HPBT bullets supersonic. It should be an effective deer round with 110 Gr TTSX's. Bolt guns and single shot rifles are now being factory-made for the Blackout round. Sent from my Dingleberry Handheld Wireless

Re: Where does the 300 Whisper fall 257heaven #7750671 05/19/13
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Jericho Campfire Outfitter J Joined: May 2002 Posts: 9,995	A gunshop in my area has a couple Remington Model Sevens in .300AAC for sale.

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Re: Where does the 300 Whisper fall Jericho #7750718 05/19/13
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chlinstructor Campfire Kahuna Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 69,209 TX	I've got the S&W M&P -15 in .300 Whisper. Got it about a year ago. Absolutely Love mine, & it shoots 1" 5-shot groups @ 100 yards even with the cheap Remington Factory Ammo. I've killed several feral hogs at the ranch with it. Most of my shots have been under 100 yards & puts them down immediately. Haven't shot a deer with it yet, but I'm still waiting on my suppressor also. It's legal now in TX to shoot any game animal or Varmit while using a suppressor. The Subsonic Ammo shoots about 6" high in my rifle when sighted in with the 115gr ammo. So far, mine has fed every kind of ammo I've tried without a hitch. Hope you enjoy your new S&W .300 Whisper. Last edited by chlinstructor; 05/19/13. "Allways speak the truth and you will never have to remember what you said before..." Sam Houston Texans, "We say Grace, We Say Mam, If You Don't Like it, We Don't Give a Damn!" ~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~

Re: Where does the 300 Whisper fall chlinstructor #7752178 05/20/13
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OP 219Zipper Campfire Member 2 Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 287 Rural northern Minnesota	It sounds like every bit the gun I hoped it would be. Can any of you tell me the advantage of shooting with vs without, the suppressor on this particular gun? I am 100% un/inexperienced with them.

Re: Where does the 300 Whisper fall 219Zipper #7752553 05/20/13
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RHutch Campfire Regular R Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,885 Frisco TX	Shooting anything suppressed is better than without. The whisper or blackout are really fun with subs/suppressed. My whisper bolt gun was almost mouse fart quiet. My AR in blackout is a little louder with subs but still very quiet. I would suggest not getting either unless you plan to shoot subs suppressed. The supers are sorta "what's the point". There are better supersonic options out there in 30 cal. There will be opinions either way. I have had both but these cartridges are niche cartridges IME. I sold the bolt gun but kept the AR cause it makes me smile when I get trigger time with it.

Re: Where does the 300 Whisper fall RHutch #7752578 05/20/13
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EddyBo Campfire Tracker Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 4,210 SW MS	Originally Posted by RHutch Shooting anything suppressed is better than without. The whisper or blackout are really fun with subs/suppressed. My whisper bolt gun was almost mouse fart quiet. My AR in blackout is a little louder with subs but still very quiet. I would suggest not getting either unless you plan to shoot subs suppressed. The supers are sorta "what's the point". There are better supersonic options out there in 30 cal. There will be opinions either way. I have had both but these cartridges are niche cartridges IME. I sold the bolt gun but kept the AR cause it makes me smile when I get trigger time with it. Well said and I concur. The dang things are deer killers as well. We have shot several and a bunch of pigs with whispers. It is amazing how well 1050 fps heavy bullets kill stuff.

Re: Where does the 300 Whisper fall 257heaven #7757431 05/22/13
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28lx Campfire Regular Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,386 Michigan	Originally Posted by 257heaven Gaining popularity now due to the release of the 300 AAC Blackout, which is the same cartridge by AAC with props given to JD Jones. It's what caused me to finally get off my azz and order a suppressor. Been waiting a few weeks shy of 6 months now and expect my stamp any day now. Brass is not too easy to create from 223, and it's backordered like everything else is. I have 1000 cases and am expecting 2000 more that I ordered in December. The AR will be fun with 220 Gr subsonic loads suppressed as well as lighter HPBT bullets supersonic. It should be an effective deer round with 110 Gr TTSX's. Bolt guns and single shot rifles are now being factory-made for the Blackout round. Its been around 12 or so years since I played with an AR in 300 Whisper but deer didnt like the 125 grain Nosler BT and a charge of H-110.

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Re: Where does the 300 Whisper fall RHutch #7758628 05/22/13
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OP 219Zipper Campfire Member 2 Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 287 Rural northern Minnesota	Originally Posted by RHutch I would suggest not getting either unless you plan to shoot subs suppressed. The supers are sorta "what's the point". There are better supersonic options out there in 30 cal. Not disputing your statement, I will admit readily up front that I am not knowledgable enough to do so, however I am curious what your thoughts are on "there are rounds are out there that are better in 30 cal...?" What rounds do you recommend as better? I am old enough to know when to shut up and listen.

Re: Where does the 300 Whisper fall 219Zipper #7758672 05/22/13
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OP 219Zipper Campfire Member 2 Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 287 Rural northern Minnesota	Also, is it correct that the magazines of the 5.56/223 will work safely with the 300 rounds? I recently read that and did want to confirm it as 100% accurate...?

Re: Where does the 300 Whisper fall 219Zipper #7758855 05/22/13
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257heaven Campfire Ranger 2 Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 18,854 The LBK......TX	Originally Posted by 219Zipper Also, is it correct that the magazines of the 5.56/223 will work safely with the 300 rounds? I recently read that and did want to confirm it as 100% accurate...? That is correct. Here's a pic. From left: 223, 300 Blackout first 2 supersonic, one on right 220 Gr subsonic. Last edited by 257heaven; 05/22/13. Sent from my Dingleberry Handheld Wireless

Re: Where does the 300 Whisper fall 257heaven #7758884 05/22/13
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petr Campfire Regular Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,440 Winn Parish	A year ago I would have said it was a fad, but the blackout has exploded in popularity. Lots of rifles are being put together in the name of a *wife gun or kid gun. Ha! It's a great excuse to get one.

Re: Where does the 300 Whisper fall 219Zipper #7758947 05/22/13
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Swifty52 Campfire Outfitter Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 8,642 Nebr	A couple of good reads here for you. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.300_Whisper SSK has some really good videos http://sskindustries.com/300-whisper-%C2%AE And just for clarification, the original 300 Whisper was based on a necked up 221 Fireball, not the 223 as is the blackout. Also the whisper is still considered a wildcat. Swifty

Re: Where does the 300 Whisper fall 219Zipper #7759029 05/22/13
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rost495 Campfire Kahuna R Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 57,477 Alaska	Originally Posted by 219Zipper categorywise, in your book? Do you consider it a custom, a prima donna, conventional, it isn't a wildcat by most standards, is it? I am curious what most of you think of it, or don't. The only important thing since you have one coming, is you will find out if you like it or not. It started as a wildcat, as do most rounds. Its much less of one now since factory ammo is there. Its a special purpose round. Bottom line, if you feel the need for it, or enjoy it, thats all that matters. I've had a barrel and dies for almost a year now, been waiting on trust paperwork etc... and to get a suppressor plus for AR parts to go back to normal pricing, I'm in no hurry so I refuse to pay silly pricing. Enjoy! We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....

Re: Where does the 300 Whisper fall rost495 #7760285 05/23/13
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OP 219Zipper Campfire Member 2 Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 287 Rural northern Minnesota	Thanks guys, all good info and input. I appreciate the links, Swifty, good reading and viewing there! Are there special requirements that need to be met for the stamp? I haven't ever considered it but I am now.

Re: Where does the 300 Whisper fall 219Zipper #7760381 05/23/13
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RHutch Campfire Regular R Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,885 Frisco TX	The main requirement is that you are not a felon. Secondly, make sure cans are legal to own in your state. Snipershide.com has a suppressor forum that will answer all your questions.

Re: Where does the 300 Whisper fall RHutch #7760807 05/23/13
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OP 219Zipper Campfire Member 2 Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 287 Rural northern Minnesota	Naturally, Minnesota, where I live, is one of the few states that won't allow them. So much for that idea!

Re: Where does the 300 Whisper fall Swifty52 #7760866 05/23/13
Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 4,210 SW MS EddyBo Campfire Tracker
EddyBo Campfire Tracker Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 4,210 SW MS	Originally Posted by Swifty52 A couple of good reads here for you. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.300_Whisper SSK has some really good videos http://sskindustries.com/300-whisper-%C2%AE And just for clarification, the original 300 Whisper was based on a necked up 221 Fireball, not the 223 as is the blackout. Also the whisper is still considered a wildcat. It is still based off the 221 fireball. There is just more 223 brass out there. It is easier to lop 223 cases off at the shoulder and neck them down than neck up 221 cases.

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