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The man who pulled the trigger is the responsible one, period. Time to quit making excuses for trigger happy cops .


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Unlike in the military, a cop has the option of refusing to participate in STUPID operations.


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Well, at least he got to shoot somebody.

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Regular people in Deetrouit/Chitcago can't even own a gun. How in the hell does the Gestapo justify a submachine gun?

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Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
A few years ago there was a program that followed various SWAT teams around with a camera.

I was most impressed with the Dallas team. Very professional, very creative, and they actually understood TACTICS.

There was another Texas team I liked. They would deploy their snipers ahead of time and have them in an over watch position before the raid team would even arrive. There were team that understood it was prior planning and excellent execution was what brought everyone home, and not an unplanned application of brute force.

The one I was the least impressed with was Detroit. When Detroit was on I called it "Amateur Hour".



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Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
A few years ago there was a program that followed various SWAT teams around with a camera.

I was most impressed with the Dallas team. Very professional, very creative, and they actually understood TACTICS.

There was another Texas team I liked. They would deploy their snipers ahead of time and have them in an over watch position before the raid team would even arrive. There were team that understood it was prior planning and excellent execution was what brought everyone home, and not an unplanned application of brute force.

The one I was the least impressed with was Detroit. When Detroit was on I called it "Amateur Hour".



Do you remember if it was a big city or small town (the other team you liked)?


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This sob should be hung and then skinned and have it mounted in the police department headquarters as a reminder of what stupidity and arrogance gets you. Or better yet, after he's found guilty, put this rambo bass turd in general pop. and let it be known he is a child killing cop! YEah, that would work! See if THEY would be afraid to TOUCH him!

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Our guys the best in the US?

Must be why we never hear much about 'em.

Oh, we hear they get called out sometimes, and of arrests made, but that ain't big news.

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That's the sad thing about great cops... you never hear anything about them.


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Originally Posted by Bluedreaux
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
A few years ago there was a program that followed various SWAT teams around with a camera.

I was most impressed with the Dallas team. Very professional, very creative, and they actually understood TACTICS.

There was another Texas team I liked. They would deploy their snipers ahead of time and have them in an over watch position before the raid team would even arrive. There were team that understood it was prior planning and excellent execution was what brought everyone home, and not an unplanned application of brute force.

The one I was the least impressed with was Detroit. When Detroit was on I called it "Amateur Hour".



Do you remember if it was a big city or small town (the other team you liked)?


As I recall, it was a smaller city, smaller then Dallas. They didn't have near the toys Dallas did, but they made very good use of what they had.


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If it was Court TV, that was likely us. They came and filmed us a few times, and what you're describing is how we did things (which most folks didn't).


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Well Blue, I must say, that was some fine work you boys did. If everyone put as much thought, planning, and care into their operations as your dept. we would have few of these discussions.

Keep up the good work.



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Originally Posted by Calhoun
That's the sad thing about great cops... you never hear anything about them.


It's like cornerbacks. If you don't hear their name, they've had a great game.


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If it was Court TV, that was likely us. They came and filmed us a few times, and what you're describing is how we did things (which most folks didn't).


I can just see you boys loadin' up in the back of Jim Bob's crew cab, him drivin' it right into the livin' room and y'all pilin' out swingin' 2X4's. grin


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Originally Posted by curdog4570
Originally Posted by Bluedreaux
If it was Court TV, that was likely us. They came and filmed us a few times, and what you're describing is how we did things (which most folks didn't).


I can just see you boys loadin' up in the back of Jim Bob's crew cab, him drivin' it right into the livin' room and y'all pilin' out swingin' 2X4's. grin


You are confusing them with the boys from Tennessee. They were real "Bubba's"


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Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Well Blue, I must say, that was some fine work you boys did. If everyone put as much thought, planning, and care into their operations as your dept. we would have few of these discussions.

Keep up the good work.



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Here's a link to the original thread when this jumped off three years ago;

http://24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/4097891/1

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Back in the 90's in the Denver area, a bunch of cops busted into a house looking for drugs or whatever. Turns out there was a family of Mexicans living there who apparently had no connection with drugs. They might have been illegal but weren't in the drug trade. Anyway, they killed the old man (why is it always old people or kids they pick on?) because he couldn't understand English and thought a bunch of burglars were breaking in, so he pulled a gun to defend his family. Of course the cops said, "Oh if he hadn't had the gun he would still be alive...it was his fault he died." Yea right.

Long story short, the resulting lawsuit (the cops lied on the search warrant and then shopped it around until they found a sympathetic judge) caused, at least, a temporary reduction in no knock home invasions by police...went down by like 70% or something. I am sure other innocents were saved by this event, but the poor bastard they shot twenty or so times was still just as dead.

Maybe because of this little girls death, Detroit will reduce unnecessary police violence. One can hope.

At least the cops didn't use an armored vehicle and burn the place to the ground or drop a bomb from a helicopter...gotta give a little credit I guess.


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Originally Posted by Calhoun
That's the sad thing about great cops... you never hear anything about them.


NOT often enough, no...


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