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People can push a case to trial especially if they feel Remington or the gun company is not addressing their issue sufficiently (aka offering enough money). That has always been the case with civil lawsuits.

I enjoyed the video and it is about what I expected. I have shot Remington M700's for 20 years and have never had the rifle fire on its own when I closed the bolt regardless of the safety position.

Speaking as a lawyer, I would be very surprised if such settlements do not all include a secrecy clause. (I know of one of theirs that did.)

50% sing songs of glory in the halls of vahalla for remington 700,s

the other 50% would rather have a sister making a living in a house of ill repute than have a friend or relative around them with a remington 700

I thought Remingtons response was alot of jadda jadda and blah blah blah. It said NOTHING. Why didnt they take the oppurtunity to explain how the trigger works. Instead, this man explains the problem or atleast part of the problem:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SqRH3tHhdM

Well, its not the whole truth becouse as long as you have a loose part in the housing (the connector) you cant be 100%. No matter how well YOUR trigger works, the connector is an unnecessary part that can make the rifle fail. It would even have been cheaper to use one part, a whole trigger body without the connector.

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Remington can spend zillions on propaganda videos that do not address the problem with the 700, and the Remington fans here can rant and rave to defend that mechanism until they are blue in the face. But, all of that amounts to nothing more than a housefly in the face of actual experience by shooters.

There was a lot of experienced shooting up this way by Campfire guys during the past weekend. Some of that shooting was with Rem 700s - rifles that had never before malfunctioned in the hands of owners who had shot them a lot. There were significant on-the-spot witnesses.

One Rem 700 fired itself upon closing of the bolt. BANG ! (I did not witness that event - related to me by the shooter.)

Another fired itself when loaded/cocked but nothing near the trigger when the safety was gently disengaged. BANG !

Some very experienced shooters witnessed these Rem 700 discharge events. The latter trigger/safety mechanism was thoroughly examined as soon as that rifle could be gotten to a bench. Clean as a whistle - no unusual wear or tolerances.

Now, again, what was in that video, and what have the Rem 700 fans said?

interesting

would be nice to hear the 1st hand accounts of casper the unfriendly ghost touching off those remmys

I personally witnessed both incidents. I was some distance away from the first incident, but saw the shooter was not in position to fire and the gun went off. Didn't know the details at that time but the shooter was very shaken up.
Second time I was talking to a guy with the same name as me. We were less than 30 feet away and I saw the shooter close the bolt, the gun went off and the shooter said I didn't fire that. Everyone agreed he should get another shot and that one didn't count.
I've been around 700's most of my life and never saw that happen before, then twice in the same day. Luckily everyone was experienced and practicing safe gun handling or it could have ruined someone's day.

wow
one when the safety was being disengaged and another when the bolt was being closed






not good................................

The elder Crossman was right when he wrote that departing from the '98 Mauser was like departing from the North Pole � that the only direction from there is south.

� especially in regard to the way that the safety works.

True on all points!

I have an old Ruger 77 and when I found out that there was a recall on them due to a design flaw with the overtravel adjustment set screw, I sent off for the replacement part and installed it even tho I never had a problem with the original trigger. 12 years ago when I learned of this problem with the Remington Walker trigger, I replaced it with a Timney trigger with the ULA 3 position safety. This locks up the bolt when on safe, pushing down on the safety lever unlocks it for unloading. IMO it's just prudent to do what's necessary to allow for the best and safest design available. BTW I had heard of 2 incidents of AD with M700s, firing when the safety was taken off, among my acquaintances. Remington's change from a locked bolt when the safety's engaged to an unlocked bolt allowing for unloading without disengaging the safety amounted to an admission that there was a problem.