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A special interest group with an agenda got blasted by another......seems fitting.

Atheists are dead wrong about their beliefs or nun-beliefs, or whatever you want to call it.

And I know definitely for a fact that they are wrong, as they will also know some day.

The best question is what the hell are the ten commandments doing there in the first place? Hey, you wanna be religious? OK, go to church, teach your kids, whatever, but keep it to yourself. Now if you go around raising monuments to your religion, don't get upset when somebody else does the same.

44henry

Wrong, wrong, wrong, and wrong!

Our inviolable rights, as the Constitution recognizes and confirms, come with being born.

And the separation of church and state is not hostility or antagonism of state to church. The Constitution merely forbids the goverment to establish any church or religious belief as THE official state religion � not to silence any.

With nice little pocket copies of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution so readily and easily available from the Cato Institute (cato.org) for a dime, I'm appalled by how many "thinking" people remain so ignorant of what it says.

Hey Theo

"let them go to Hell?"

What a 'novel' idea!! By golly...best idea yet! That'll work!!

Nice to see someone else who more or less agrees with me.

Make that two of us..

Ken. What I mean is that there is no place in the constitutikn that states one cannot use god in government. That is to say all the horseschit theories that children cannot pray to god in school because there is seperation of church and state just inst so. Again we have freedom OF religion not freedom FROM religion

Pete,

The US Constitution prohibits Congress from establishing a state religion, the phrase "separation of church and state" appears no where in the founding documents, it originated in a letter written by Jefferson to the Danbury Baptist Association. At the time several of the states had state religions, as with most of the Bill of Rights, with the notable exception of the 2nd Amendment, their meanings have been expanded and perverted to what borders on the ridiculous.

http://www.loc.gov/loc/lcib/9806/danpost.html

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No I am not one of those. However, your first sentence states you believe that, we, as in all Christians, I presume, believe the same as you just as the connotation of your last sentence using the words, our beliefs. I doubt all believers of the Christian faith
believe as you do or agree with your interpretation or version of Christian beliefs.

Yes, I can tell the difference. Again, however there are those of both sides that do push their agendas just like there are those of both sides that do not have an agenda to push at all.

I can tolerate a respectful discussion of the subject, and enjoy doing so and others beliefs do not offend me what so ever.

So, as in my post that you quoted, I stated those who push their agendas. If you don't have an agenda to push why all the questions?

Three..

Clink, so, the Christians post this:

20:2 I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
20:3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

And some how it's the Athiest that are on offense??

Ken, you are confusing Atheist with Anarchist. They are not the same thing.

Gitem, if you condone pissing on an Athiest symbol, do you also condome the "Piss Christ" and the throwing feces at the statue (or was it a painting) or the Virgin Mary?

I don't see how either act is conducive to respectful debate.

Didn't know Anarchists organized to build benches and its true, they are not the same.

Point being, the foundation of our laws and liberty weren't codified from either.

Hawk, to claim the Constitution derives from Christianity is just wrong.

To say this:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances

derives from this:
Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

and this:
Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them:


Or that This:
Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.
and this:
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

derive from this: I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation..

is just obsurd.

As for our Constitutuion deriving from English Common law, yes, that is the case. But the basis of English Common Law is the English Bill of Right of 1689, which addressed the right of Parliment to limit the power of the King of England who claimed to rule by Divine Right.

Sorry Hawk, it's a nice platatde, it just has no basis in fact.