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IMO the perfect mountain rifle depends on the needs that day. 7mm-08 in a M7 KS pattern McEdge @ 6.5# ready to rock or .375 RUM in a B&C AK Ti @ sub 8# all up. or somewhere in between like a 7.5# M7 in .350 RM
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pathfinder thanks. It is possible I am incorrect about the re-shaping because I saw the Winchester stamp on the root of the bold handle and assumed he reshaped...I never asked. You cleared it up in my mind.
It is possible he cut the old one off and welded a new one.
In any event the rifle was put together to be JUST light enough for me to take up a mountain,and as light as I want it considering the chambering. BobinNH, yours may have been done that way. But I know he does replace them and usually the joint is below the "dog leg" in the handle. Here is a photo (reversed sorry) of a Heilmann handle in the white. Uploaded with ImageShack.us pathfinder - Thank you to you and Bob both. This thread is going to cost me some money, I'm afraid.
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Montanaman what color is that carakote on the 280. I like that
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IMO the perfect mountain rifle depends on the needs that day. 7mm-08 in a M7 KS pattern McEdge @ 6.5# ready to rock or .375 RUM in a B&C AK Ti @ sub 8# all up. or somewhere in between like a 7.5# M7 in .350 RM I love that pic. I'm not a huge yellow fan,(no offense intended), but that that rifle on that post in that pic is awesome.
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Montanaman what color is that carakote on the 280. I like that Graphite Black as done by Karl Feldkamp @ Kampfeld Custom. MM
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That 280 is my ideal. Gorgeous rifle!
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That 280 is my ideal. Gorgeous rifle! Thanks.......yeah, for my needs, it about as good as it gets. As shown, weighs a hair under 7lb, & shoots into 1/2". MM
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That 280 is my ideal. Gorgeous rifle! Thanks.......yeah, for my needs, it about as good as it gets. As shown, weighs a hair under 7lb, & shoots into 1/2". MM That should be good enough for anyone's needs!
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As always, Bob nails it .......
So, my "mountain rifles", .270s and .280s, run about 7.25 to 7.5 all up and my .300 Norma, goes a hair over 8, with the .338s at 8,5 and this seems about ideal to me.
kutenay; I hope this finds you and yours acceptably well this warm July evening sir. In another thread way back when Brad and I agreed that there was a line somewhere below the 6� lb mark that when crossed made a rifle difficult for us to do good work with. I recall shooting a .284 of such a weight one time built on a 600 action and while I got it to group OK felt it was on the ragged edge of what I could handle well. Interestingly the owner outweighed me by something like 75lb and his groups were a full 2" lower than mine. As you mentioned, my cyber friend BobinNH does indeed usually nail it. It's almost like he's done this a time or two. My "walking around rifle" these days is a money pit .270 that started with a wartime 98 action and a takeoff Parker Hale Featherweight barrel in .270. I installed a Timney Buehler safety, FN extractor, Wolff Blitzschnell mainspring, Timney trigger, 3.6 oz aluminum bottom metal, ultra ugly Bushnell lightweight rings, Leupold 6X Compact and it all sits in a Wildcat Composites 20oz stock. Oh, it's 7lbs on the nose with 5 130gr TTSX or GMX in the magazine. Like you kutenay, there's really no place we hunt that is not in the mountains, so I guess that qualifies it as a mountain rifle? Here's it's laying on a whitetail from the mountain up behind the house. The walking around rifle that it replaced is a .308 Norma that I put together on a Ruger 77 tang model - used to be a .338 actually - and with it's lighter Claro stock weighs just a wee bit over 8lbs. Strangely enough the way fate worked out it killed this buck within spitting distance of the one above. While I can do about equal work with either rifle, I'd have to admit that I appreciate the pound less of the .270 if the walks get further and/or steeper than usual. Anyway that's just another BC hunters take on it and in true 'Fire tradition other's mileage may vary. All the best to you and yours this summer kutenay. Dwayne
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Ti 7mm08 McM Mountain rifle edge fill !
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Boy these make me want to start another build
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Strangely enough the way fate worked out it killed this buck within spitting distance of the one above. Yikes Dwayne....what a buck! Nicely done! Lots of things work for mountain rifles because we have lots of cartridges that behave like 270's and 280's....but in the end, if you have one of those,there isn't much sense in buying anything else.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Yup, based on the experience I have had since my first hunting season in 1964, ownership of 125-150 big game rifles since 1965 and use of many different cartridges, I have to agree.
I am at that time of life, when my gun collection must be sold and only a very few kept and this is about as much fun as a swift kick in the, well, you know....
IF, I CAN do what I really should and eventually must, I will definitely keep my P-64 Fwt. .270s and my modded Brno 21/22 rifles, the 60mm barrel variation, rechambered to .280 Rem.
These are easy to pack all day, shoot well and hit hard and Bob is right here, there really is nothing "better" for the mountains and not much as good.
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Nice one David
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Thank you I really like the Mountain rifle pattern stock I bought from you . David
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