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This is not a cartridge for everyone as a matter of fact it isn't for most. Most don't have any business with a wildcat. If someone is stupid enough to buy it and give it to the 8 year old like someone is forcing him well he deserves the dumb ass award.
No one here has any experience at all with this round, don't attempt to show how much you know if it is nothing.
Please leave this on forums where the members are more experienced.
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Most don't have any business with a wildcat. Especially the guys in charge of this one.
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It's the "angel/devil" situation. I have Gunner on one shoulder telling me to go bigger/heavier and Scott on the other preaching small/fast. I can't quite bring myself to go to the .233 for deer (yet) but the 95ttsx is a good start  Our deer herd does, in fact, suck. That's why I travel! George
�Out of every one hundred men, ten shouldn't even be there, eighty are just targets, nine are the real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, for they make the battle. Ah, but the one, one is a warrior, and he will bring the others back.�
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Sont feel bad george. I dont shoot many deer from a duck boat either
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I wouldn't listen much to that gunner punk.
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If someone is stupid enough to buy it and give it to the 8 year old like someone is forcing him well he deserves the dumb ass award I don't believe the thought ever crossed my mind. It was an example to show that, for my application, the 6.8 delivers all I need. When I was doing my homework on the 6.8 (years ago) you provided a wealth of knowledge without the prissy attitude. Things change I guess.
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�Out of every one hundred men, ten shouldn't even be there, eighty are just targets, nine are the real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, for they make the battle. Ah, but the one, one is a warrior, and he will bring the others back.�
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This is not a cartridge for everyone as a matter of fact it isn't for most. Most don't have any business with a wildcat. If someone is stupid enough to buy it and give it to the 8 year old like someone is forcing him well he deserves the dumb ass award.
No one here has any experience at all with this round, don't attempt to show how much you know if it is nothing.
Please leave this on forums where the members are more experienced. I'd put the collective experience with internal/external ballistics of this forum up against most. Particularly when you consider the experience of people like Howell, Barsness, Turpin, Timm, and others. Quite honestly anyone developing wildcats and using such inaccurate indicators such as a slightly flattened primer as indications of pressure is incredibly foolhardy. If you want to play and act like you're some sort of expert, comparing it to other cartridges which only makes sense at similar pressures - you need a pressure strain gauge. Anything else is just BS.
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I'd put the collective experience with guessing/talking out their ass of this forum up against most too.........
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Please leave this on forums where the members are more experienced.
Too [bleep] funny. This forum HAS really gone into the toilet..
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This thread is starting to remind me of another one... ...what was it? Something about snipers? ...hmmmm... maybe gratuitous pictures are in order? my current .270: ![[Linked Image]](http://i712.photobucket.com/albums/ww127/tex_n_cal/04c84a97.jpg) and better yet? ![[Linked Image]](http://i712.photobucket.com/albums/ww127/tex_n_cal/april_vokey_steelie.jpg)
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I think I read somewhere once that 270s are gay. Has anyone else heard this? I don't recall if it was just the 270 winchester or anything firing a .277 bullet. Anybody know?
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I believe Ingwe will have to make the ruling on that.
�Out of every one hundred men, ten shouldn't even be there, eighty are just targets, nine are the real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, for they make the battle. Ah, but the one, one is a warrior, and he will bring the others back.�
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Interestingly enough, Quickload has a wildcat with approx. the same case capacity as this round. Won't do even close to 2750 without getting into pressures too high for an AR (or at least one I'm shooting).
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Interesting. I ran Quickload for 270 Winchester with an 18" barrel and 55000 psi max. In other words, taking everything out of the equation except the case capacity. Ended up with around 2860 as max velocity with a 130 Berger with a number of powders (RE 25 showed another 20 fps, but there are a bunch right around 2850-2860).
Did the math (and keep in mind this is using the case capacities the OP gave us for the 270AR, so things could vary a bit in real life). Ended up with around 260 fps less than the 270 Winchester.......or 2600 fps. The developer said it has the same case capacity at the Remington 30AR.
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Interestingly enough, Quickload has a wildcat with approx. the same case capacity as this round. Won't do even close to 2750 without getting into pressures too high for an AR (or at least one I'm shooting). Keep in mind its not using a standard bolt.
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Looks awful long. Special magazines? What's coal.?
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Interestingly enough, Quickload has a wildcat with approx. the same case capacity as this round. Won't do even close to 2750 without getting into pressures too high for an AR (or at least one I'm shooting). Keep in mind its not using a standard bolt. So what kind of pressures can you run with this super bolt?
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The Rem 30AR has a case capacity of 44 http://kwk.us/cases.html. Maybe that could be used as a reference?
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God bless Texas-----------------------
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So what kind of pressures can you run with this super bolt?
Um duh right up to the point when the primers begin to flatten or crater...
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