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My 1950s era M37 12 ga would function slickity snick with target loads but would hang up tight as Chinese finger cuffs with short mags. Turned out to be a roughly machined chamber. Polishing the chamber solved the problem. Seems to have happened with a few other older M37s too, if some posts on ShotgunWorld.com are to be counted.
Just saw your response to me, thanks. What did you use to polish the chamber? Admittedly, I haven't spent much time trying to decipher what is going on. Might have to pull it out of the safe in the morning. Only a month away from dove season..... A slotted wooden dowel and a 1/2" drill motor. Medium grit wet/dry paper backed with foam to provide pressure against the chamber wall. started with 100 with Kroil and worked down to 200. It is essentially a home-made flex-hone. Yep.. But I keep going through 400 grit... Some shotgun chambers, I swear, musta been done at the factory with a dull knife.. Just got around to doing this tonight. I think the phrase is called "slicker than greased owl crap". Thanks guys.
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A week ago I received my 37 16ga I got off of GB. The seller said it looked have been bought new and used very little. I have to agree. I am amazed how smooth the action is. The trigger pull was a bit heavy. I took the trigger assembly apart and found a burr on the inside of the trigger guard next to the bolt release slot. I removed it and all is well.
The Karma bus always has an empty seat when it comes around.- High Brass
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I've got a 20ga in the deerslayer model with a smooth bore and have shot several deer with it. It's my primary deer gun even tho I have a couple of others with rifled barrels. It handles well and operates so smoothly and it's lightweight in comparison to the remington auto and winchester pump.
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Joined: Dec 2003
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They are wonderful. (You are to be commended for spelling "Ithaca" correctly.) I have 5 or 6 of them and still try to spell it "Ithica" about half the time! LOL
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I've got a nice 16 gauge. Ok gun but I've often considered selling it, always felt a little butt stock heavy to me. Guess I could remedy that will some hollowing out of the butt stock, just haven't gotten around to it.
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Campfire Greenhorn
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Ithaca has had some financial problems in the past and it showed in some of the guns they made. The older 1950's guns can be wonderful ( I still remember the 16ga I used to borrow from a neighbor when I was a kid, worked like a watch and I killed a pile of stuff with it) but some of the guns made in the 70's had lots of problems. I remember two guns that would eject a empty and dump the next unfired shell on the ground at the same time. The factory never could make the guns 100% reliable. The other thing is that barrels are not always interchangeable even when they are supposed to be. Not sure what the current mfg guns are like. If I came across a older gun ( pre pressed checkering with the small grooved forearm) I would be thinking hard about bringing it home with me. Also, the older Remington model 17 (made in 20ga only) is the older brother & clone to the model 37. I still have one with a 28" barrel & factory cyl bore that goes out on occasion for birds over a dog.
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I would just take my time until I found a good OLDER pump gun. I don't think much of what is new on the market. My 20/16 pump gun list would be:
Model 12 Win (not Nickle steel 1912) short grooved flat bottom forend Model 31 Rem preferably Lt over standard Model 37 Ithaca (older model with ser# on front of receiver and on the barrel) Model 17 Rem like Ken mentioned (only one extractor compared to 37 that has two)
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