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this is no different than the evolutionary changes in plant life that has been occurring at least since that Monk worked on field peas to make them taller or shorter.

it's only faster (more fast?).

Not even close. There are worlds apart between the method by which nature made the wolf and man made the dog on the one hand (natural and intelligent selection), and the method by which scientists create Frankenfoods.

I had no idea that alfalfa was the fourth most widely grown field crop in the U.S. I find that hard to believe. I would think that it would be measured in acres planted, and that cotton would beat it out, but hell, you never know. Anyway, what's so bad about GMO contamination????

+1. I'm with ya there, Bro.

I've grown "hybrid" tomato plants coming out of a city water/sewage trtmnt plant. ya never know what they'll do or produce.

types of hybridization occurs all the time, but only the strong will survive.

Read up. The Internet is your friend.

GMO isn't hybridization.

it appears you're trying to bifurcate plant reproduction whether it occurs naturally, like a pink dogwood chimera, or a cross-bred type of sweet corn.

i know, you want to paint with a broad brush and include biological laboratory manipulation and imputation of genes into a chromosome to create a new kind of plant with specific strengths, etc.

they've cloned the sheep, why not clone a few more plants?

What you say above is gobbledygook. Hybridization is something that occurs in nature. Man uses the same methods as nature does to create hybrids. Hybrids are crosses between closely related species. GMO not only doesn't merely cross closely related species, but even cuts across kingdoms, using highly sophisticated laboratory technology, to achieve its ends, creating monstrosities that could never have existed in nature, regardless of what they might look like on the outside. These monstrosities are then introduced into nature without having the foggiest notion as to long term consequences, as if the earth were a test tube in a laboratory buried deep inside a mountain, and vacuum sealed by multiple firewalls from the possibility of accidental release. Irresponsible doesn't begin to describe it.

Had a pig farmer (60 K pigs per year) in Denmark tell me how he solved GMO issues on his farm. Feeds it to his pigs then sell them to the slaughter house or to feed lots.

Problem solved

So, don't eat any alfalfa.

He asks you a question....you obviously can't answer.

OK...explain IN DETAIL how GMO crops are dangerous to man and beast?

I don't want some environmentalist groups conjecture...facts please.

TRH, first off you should call it Transgenic instead of GMO (genetically modified organism). It's not a cross at all, it is the insertion of a gene into a specific part of the genome. So you really think that adding a code sequence from a bacteria to detoxify glyphosate really alters significantly a genetic sequence that is millions of sequences long? You are doubtless aware that the human genome contains fungus like, bacteria like, and apmhibian like gene sequences too. Are you a monstrositie also?

The two issues that I see of concern are contamination of the genetic base and labeling (lack of) foods so that people might vote with their dollars.

Mitochondria and the like are hardly new additions to our make up concocted in a laboratory. We partnered with them before our ancestors were rightly considered true multicellular organisms ... rather more akin to complex colonies of single cell organisms. I will add, however, that our DNA is not merged, as mitochondrial DNA remains entirely distinct from that of our species, i.e., from that found in our cellular nuclei.

OK...now, what is the Real danger of this?

I can see that the GMO plants can contaminate open pollinated plants and destroy the variety forever.

Are there any other documented deleterious effects on anything?

why is inserting a gene into a potato plant to help it resist a fatal or near fatal frost a bad thing?