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it is to late. and has been since the mid-fifties, imho.
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Usuaal arguments and name calling. I didn't read all the stuff. I object to having a corp. own the food I need, and letting it's "special property" get into my or my neighbors crops and then assuming they own it too because it contains their stray genes. The different problems brought on by monocultures is something else to wonder about.
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It's a fact that Round-Up ready corn(alfalfa) reduce herbicide use bigtime.
Round-up isn't nearly as 'bad' for the environment compared to certain chemicals.
That said I am a little nervous about the possible GMO half breed weeds(resistance) and things like that. You already have resistance "things" in non-GMO Sammo.
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What you grow for yourself and what the grower that is growing large scale for the market are vastly different animals.
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It's a fact that Round-Up ready corn(alfalfa) reduce herbicide use bigtime.
Round-up isn't nearly as 'bad' for the environment compared to certain chemicals.
That said I am a little nervous about the possible GMO half breed weeds(resistance) and things like that. You already have resistance "things" in non-GMO Sammo. Dude, great point.
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For those that care, this is one of hundreds of articles about the negative side of GMOs http://www.theorganicprepper.ca/mov...thstand-even-deadlier-herbicide-09012013
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That is a link to a kook sight.
Not joking.
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What you grow for yourself and what the grower that is growing large scale for the market are vastly different animals. My "Market" IS a population of "Vastly different " young animals, Mister. Whether you like it, agree with it, find it a ready target for demented vitriol, or not,...... LOTS of young parents WANT to bring their kids to "You Pick" operations and get them involved with the actual SOURCE of their food. While visiting they seem to be PASSIONATELY interested in learning how to grow /raise their foods at home. The starving dogs in India ( or East L.A.) are really not my "market", anyway. "Vastly different" ? I say, "Vive La difference !" GTC
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It's a fact that Round-Up ready corn(alfalfa) reduce herbicide use bigtime.
Round-up isn't nearly as 'bad' for the environment compared to certain chemicals.
That said I am a little nervous about the possible GMO half breed weeds(resistance) and things like that. You already have resistance "things" in non-GMO Sammo. Dude, great point. We are already having problems with Round Up resistant weeds on our farm here in northern Missouri.
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Yes, you'll even see some 16-16-16 . There's some glysophate in a sprayer, too,..... Good deal. Do you still consider yourself "organic"?
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That is really cool crossfire. Great pics!
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It is a very nice setup. Results look Impressive too.
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Cross has a pretty sweet set-up. I'm hoping to get my hands on some blackberry brandy!
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I've got a MAJOR problem on my fence lines, boundaries with Russian Thistle offa' Neighbor's places that will NOT summer fallow or cultivate and plant grasses to choke the bastids out.
I NEVER said I was "Organic",.....you're saying that.
....and I'm not up for a pissing contest, or a lotta' gas from someone who blithely made your opening comments, Buck.
I have moved a LOT of irrigation pipe, watched MANY, MANY sections disappear behind diesel snorted implements, harvested on BIG outfits and small, and pushed prime cattle around a bit too.
I don't mock other's choices of what they do on their land, or with their crops.
When THEIR chit starts threatening other folk's, it gets a bit different.
Simple, no ?
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I don't mock what anyone eats, worships or does in the privacy of their own home. When they tout "facts" that are "not", it's open range. Simple, no? Have fun.
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I have friends that go organic crops. I schit you not. They will tell you that they will not eat the organic crops they grow, because they are bug infested, schit filled garbage.Yet, they know that people like TRH will fight over and pay double to greedily buy their schit crop and they can turn a very tidy profit. Non-GMO and/or Organic.....It's like porn, you may not watch it yourself or agree with it, but if you can make a boatload..........
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I don't mock what anyone eats, worships or does in the privacy of their own home. When they tout "facts" that are "not", it's open range. Simple, no? Have fun. ......right GTC
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More and more roundup resistant weeds already. When you drive through Georgia cotton country you will see the mexicans out in the fields completely covered in heavy clothes and gloves manually pulling the pig weed out of the fields. The weed is completely immune to roundup and is really nasty stuff. It will blister the hide off you if you rub against it. What's bad is that there is a generation of farmers coming along who don't know how to farm without roundup and as roundup effectiveness fades the skills and seed to feed us all will be lacking in the farmers who are learning their trade today. Gmo monoculture and roundup may be the thing that kills us all in the end when it all collapses. Few varieties of seed and total dependence on herbicides leaves us very vulnerable to disease wiping out our food supply.
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That highlighted text is a near verbatim quote from an organic growing friend. He is supplying what the "modern" consumer wants, at a value added price. It is for a higher profit that the product is being produced, period. The koolaid drinking consumer is convinced they are getting a pure and heathy product because the enviro crowd has deemed it so if it says "organic". He doesn't eat his own produce or grains. I applaud him for being smart enough to take advantage of a ready market, while it is available. Looks like you are taking advantage too. Good for you.
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