Home Forums Hunting & Shooting AR and Tactical Rifles Holy Crap this thing is loud.

It was a terrible comp but during the ban, you had very few choices.

I also had an AR-10 with a 16" barrel and Armalites brake that would clear anyone from either side of you.

Cousin did have a brake from Accuracy systems that worked well but I hate brakes. The newer Battlecomps and the like are a whole lot different yet still the same. If I was shaving seconds, I might be interested but I do ok without them.

16 inch barrel the simple A2 hider is loud but not amplified loud. I shoot 300WSM, 308, 257 roberts, 5.56 in the woods at deer. The 5.56 with A2 in a 16 inch barrel seems less loud than a 308 from a 22 inch barrel, but I probably cannot hear anymore anyway. I have scrupulously avoided muzzle brakes since the one time I fired a ported marlin 44 magnum in the woods. That particular gun lasted 10 days in my collection IIRC.

You should never shoot without hearing protecting. I did and regret it every day. Constant ringing in ears and difficulties hearing things. Get electronic hearing protection to hunt with.

My Rem 700 VTR is louder than my other 308's, enough to prevent it from going to the deer woods. Even so, it isn't nearly as bad as other braked rifles I encounter at the range. I'm impressed by how obnoxious a short barreled 223 can be made by screwing the right loudener on the end of the barrel.

My favorite flash suppressor is the Vortex . Muzzle Brakes should come a free coupon for you first visit to the Audiologist

I am going to try the cheapo ear pro already recommended. Any advice as to electronic hunting ear pro?

I am trying the sport ear devices, they can make things real loud but are supposed to shut off at the shot, I will find out more tomorrow. The jury is still out.

ive got a $25 pair of electronic Caldwells that actually work really well.....prolly not as comfortable as more expensive ones but a huge improvement over the non electric ones as far as usability, i can actually hear conversations if there is someone around me something thats occasionally challenging even if i aint shooting and worried bout hearing protection

Not sure what break/hider Rock River uses but my son's RR Operator is a unique listening experience when fired in an indoor range even with good muffs or plugs. It's still LOUD, throws fire out about 2 feet on each side and creates a noticeable shock wave you can feel.

My question is WHY does the puny poodle shooter called the .223/5.56 need a muzzlebrake? Are we really that wimpy that we need to dampen the minimal recoil it generates?

I had my local 'smith cut the brake off my stag 6.8 for the reason the OP sighted. Damn loud and I want to use it for hunting.

yep I had one as well, and they do clear the benches - which is actually okay if you have a jerk next to you . Glad I never had to shoot it inside a house

I now have an 18" on the AR10, and a Vortex hider.

I agree. However, they are loud with or without brakes. Not wearing ear-pro is more stupid than putting a brake on a .223/5.56.

I went against Armalites advice and cut mine off. They said it was pressed on but I felt like I could turn it down and thread it. It was actually threaded and pinned so it came off quick.

As for the poodle shooter comment, brakes are for those that want to see hits in their scopes or get to the next target as fast as possible. It has nothing to do with managing recoil to just shoot.

Walker's Game Ear.

In competition- speed matters and hundredths of a second (1/100ths) is the difference between winning and losing.

In real life- speed matters and hundredths of a second (1/100ths) is the difference between winning and losing. Because I want to see what is happening through my optic. A good brake keeps my sights shimmering in a head size target at 100 yards. If I want it to be "quieter" I'll mount a suppressor.

Lord have Mercy.

Gunner

They never seem to have trouble hearing after indoor gun battles on TV so we must be doing something wrong.

Gunner

Yeah, something like a Titan on an AR is not for recoil control in the normal sense of the idea. It's about keeping the muzzle from moving for fast follow up shots, most noticeably in your transitions. Shooting at 7-25 yards you'll be fine with a standard flash hider. But offhand shooting at 80 yards is considerably easier with a good comp.

To a point there is actually a tad bit of truth in that, its called auditory exclusion. It does only go so far, like if you have a 50cal M2 go off near your ear.