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VQ ... optics are sights too
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but are they a 'must'?...
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OK I'll bite, Marlin/Glenfield Model 60. Not the best trigger, but accurate and reliable. Not expensive either.
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First off I'm not knocking the semi's but for trainer younger shooters a semi is probably not the best choice,fun yes but it's fun to hear any gun burn through a magazine quick but in light. Of the ammo shortage not my first choice
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The TC I have has good sights. However I am thinking the TC is no longer made. I talked to a TC rep at a gun show about it and he said people wanted cheaper (no walnut stock, nice bluing, good trigger, etc) so they did not sell well so they were dropped. Magazines are still available as I recently bought two.
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First off I'm not knocking the semi's but for trainer younger shooters a semi is probably not the best choice,fun yes but it's fun to hear any gun burn through a magazine quick but in light. Of the ammo shortage not my first choice Not that I disagree, but the S&W MP22 AR style rifle is becoming very popular among beginners. Why? The adjustable stock. The Cricket and other small 22s might last a year or two, then Jr outgrows it. I'm not advocating the S&W, though I do love mine, as do my girls. But I am a wood lover at heart.
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If he's looking for a classy looking, great handling, accurate .22 the Browning as shown above is just about as good as it gets, IMHO. Weatherby also makes the XXII which is a really nice, upscale looking .22 which is also reputed to be a very good shooter, but I've never shot one so can't comment.
Personally, I've always preferred the bolt action rimfires for accuracy and looks, but that is just me. Win 52 Repros and Model 75 Sporter, Rem. 541S, 541T, 504, 40X, Cooper 57M and Jackson Squirrel, and a few others of that type really turn my crank.
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Years ago, Weatherby made a pretty slick semi-auto the WBY MK XXII. It had a gloss finish,and was pretty nice to look at. I see them once in a while for $500-$600. They were a full sized rifle not a carbine
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ok, browning then.... winner!!!! i'd like to say that I've worn them out ...but that ain't happen'n
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a scope on one!!!!.... in these parts..... gets u sent to-da the woodshed......
Last edited by atvalaska; 10/18/13.
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Forgive me Father, for I am old. And half blind.....
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I'll have a talk with him ....when he comes back .....he left in a hurry to pick the rite switch....
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<BCD, are you dancing turkey boy?< Are you special ed?<
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Ok, this is more about eh software than the target. But I took my Thompson Classic out to the range. 25 yards Scoped with a Bushnell Sportview 3-9 Me wearing eyeglasses, instead of contacts Big factor here, because it's hard to focus on the crosshairs and the target, unless I wear my contacts. I was hoping to test various ammo, but the glasses simply prevented me from doing my best. And even though it turned out the 3 shot group below, I suspect that my glasses prevented the Classic from really shining. Yes, this is only 25 yards. But imagine a shooter with clear eyes, a nice AO scope, and the gun's favorite ammo. I downloaded the free version of Ontarget, but really like it and will pay the whopping $12 for the gull version. It's pretty easy to use. That's a dime and a sesame seed.
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Based on posting history, I'd have to agree.
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Josey, If your crosshair is really that fuzzy, You need to focus that scope for the glasses your wearing. I have to refocus all my scopes every time I get a new prescription. Can't imagine you'd get a better group than that though.
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T/C..... T/C..... Maybe everything isn't bigger in Texas, that looks like one big jackrabbit.
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ok, browning then.... For me the CZ 512, then the Browning, which I would have killed for to have one in the 60's.
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Josey, If your crosshair is really that fuzzy, You need to focus that scope for the glasses your wearing. I have to refocus all my scopes every time I get a new prescription. Can't imagine you'd get a better group than that though. Hmm...not sure what you mean. Just as with open sights, when I wear my glasses I simply can't get a clear view of both the sights and the target. I can do fine for self defense targets, etc. But for precision target, it's tough. This Sportview is only adjustable for power. What exactly do you mean by refocus? Today, I'm taking my 581 hunting, while wearing my contacts, so we'll see how that goes. They are bifocal, in the sense that the left contact is down graded, so it's easier for me to read my phone, see items close up.
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