24hourcampfire.com
24hourcampfire.com
-->
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
Page 2 of 5 1 2 3 4 5
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 9,611
P
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
P
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 9,611
A car can't move w/o wheels. powdr

GB1

Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 11,273
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 11,273
I shoot [bleep] until it dies-simple as that. Behind the shoulder or on the point of it both work fine for me.

Tanner

Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 35,900
B
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
B
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 35,900
Some good reasons to shoot deer in the shoulder:

-To kill it.
-It's a vital area,and a shot there can immobilize it. See above.
-That might be the shot you are presented.

If guy stops using tin foil bullets,he may find that shoulder shots can be taken without spoiling everything forward of the diaphragm.





The 280 Remington is overbore.

The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 19,179
J
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
J
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 19,179
Mornin Fred -

I am hunting private property that is surrounded on 3 sides by owners who don't allow hunting. It's important to me to DROP a deer ASAP.

I am posting 2 pics of HI-shoulder shots from last season. As you'll see there was minimal meat loss.

Also with this shot the animal is dead IMMEDIATELY. The spinal cord gets severed and it's along the bottom of the back strap. There was no kicking, pawing, crawling or anything. I watch them hit the ground and there is NO movement.

If your shot hits lower there will be more meat damaged.

[Linked Image]

[Linked Image]

For NO meat loss and if it's not important that the deer runs some distance, the lung shot is deadly.

Last edited by jwall; 10/20/13.

jwall- *** 3100 guy***

A Flat Trajectory is Never a Handicap

Speed is Trajectory's Friend !!
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 28,263
Likes: 7
J
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
J
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 28,263
Likes: 7
Originally Posted by Steelhead
I'm all about anchoring critters. There are no downsides to drilling shoulders.


This. I question why someone who's hunted as much as they say, why they would question "why a shoulder shot" in the first place.


It is irrelevant what you think. What matters is the TRUTH.
IC B2

Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 2,404
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 2,404
Originally Posted by JGRaider
Originally Posted by Steelhead
I'm all about anchoring critters. There are no downsides to drilling shoulders.


This. I question why someone who's hunted as much as they say, why they would question "why a shoulder shot" in the first place.



Yepper. It works for me too.
Besides knocking out the front wheel drive, good chances it'll blow up the heart too.
Happened to this one...
[Linked Image]

Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 15,565
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 15,565
When/where dictates how/when I shoot..........

Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 15,565
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 15,565
This doe died 20 yards from a neighbors back yard, where I needed it to NOT GO.

The crossbow/shot placement did it's job........

[Linked Image]

[Linked Image]

[Linked Image]



Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 6,766
Likes: 1
T
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
T
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 6,766
Likes: 1
punching some bone gives TSXs something to work with and prevents your food from using it's last 30 seconds to make your next several hours suck.


Guns don't kill people, drivers with cell phones kill people.
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 5,753
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 5,753
Originally Posted by FredWillis


When watching the so called pros on TV, I frequently see them taking shoulder shots. It makes me question their mentality.


They don't give a chit, plain and simple and it looks better on their so called TV shows to see whatever dropping at the shot.

Look at how many shows these days wait until the next morning to go retrieve whatever game, as it makes better shooting light.



Life is just one damned thing after another
IC B3

Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 1,611
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 1,611
I use the shoulder shot only if I have to stop the deer right there otherwise it sure makes a mess of things.

Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 39,190
Likes: 33
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 39,190
Likes: 33
I'm blue/green and red/orange color blind. (I can see the colors but they look a lot a like, don't stick out to me - sucks but I also can see deer MUCH faster than normal vision people. Movement is like a klieglight to me, not so much to others.)

Blood on leaves isn't the easiest thing in the world for me to see. I drill shoulders so they don't run.

Runt shot a buck this year and stewed the lungs. Was 70 yards before we found blood and about 90 before the deer was found.

My father is a great tracker as is my brother so I either have to know they're in camp or take out the steers. I rather take out the steers and just show up bloody....


Me



Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 837
PMC Offline
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 837
Taking out the shoulders put's them on he ground quick. I don't mess with shoulder meat. Too much trouble for too little reward. I'd rather shoot another.


shhh. be vewy vewy quiet. i'm hunting deer. uhhh uhhh uhhhh.
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 409
Campfire Member
Offline
Campfire Member
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 409
Originally Posted by PMC
Taking out the shoulders put's them on he ground quick. I don't mess with shoulder meat. Too much trouble for too little reward. I'd rather shoot another.



Keep the shoulder whole, wrap it in foil and throw it on the grill for a few hours. You end up with something like this.
[Linked Image]

Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 96,121
Likes: 1
S
Campfire Oracle
Offline
Campfire Oracle
S
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 96,121
Likes: 1
If God didn't want us to shoot deer in the shoulders He wouldn't have but the goodies betwixt them.


"Dear Lord, save me from Your followers"
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 8,643
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 8,643

[Linked Image]

Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 20,260
Likes: 17
Campfire Ranger
Online Content
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 20,260
Likes: 17
It amazes me how many folks here find critters don't go anywhere when shoulder shot. Different situations and experiences I guess.

I have found no difference in how far critters run whether shot through the shoulder or directly behind it. Sometimes they make it a few steps and sometimes they don't. High shoulder shots excluded of course.

This is why I try to avoid shoulders, even with premium bullets.
[Linked Image]
[Linked Image]
[Linked Image]
This elk made it about 10 steps after a 200 grain accubond broke both shoulders (by accident). 10 steps is not far enough to make any difference, but that gritty, nasty bone marrow and bone fragments were everywhere.
Roughly half of the critters I hit behind the shoulder don't even make it 10 steps. Again, no upside to drilling shoulders as I see it, unless it simply gives you confidence.



Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 24,652
Likes: 1
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 24,652
Likes: 1
Originally Posted by BobinNH
Some good reasons to shoot deer in the shoulder:

-To kill it.
-It's a vital area,and a shot there can immobilize it. See above.
-That might be the shot you are presented.

If guy stops using tin foil bullets,he may find that shoulder shots can be taken without spoiling everything forward of the diaphragm.



Yep.


[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

WWP53D
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 125
C
Campfire Member
Offline
Campfire Member
C
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 125
Originally Posted by BobinNH


If guy stops using tin foil bullets,he may find that shoulder shots can be taken without spoiling everything forward of the diaphragm.



Tin foil bullets at the speed of light, ain't that the truth...



Shooter's Edge
FFL in Western CO
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 35,900
B
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
B
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 35,900
CWM/Skane: Yea we love our plastic tipped and fragile skinned bullets for their wonderful accuracy and aerodynamic flight;prep ourselves for that long shot then shoot some beast at 100 yards and wonder why we have blown the fronts to smithereens,with exits the size of watermelons.... cry

You're going to spoil some meat with shoulder shots with anything because you have to break a few eggs to make an omelet...but if you use a high velocity cartridge the carnage can be kept under control by using a bit tougher bullet.




The 280 Remington is overbore.

The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
Page 2 of 5 1 2 3 4 5

Moderated by  RickBin 

Link Copied to Clipboard
AX24

593 members (10gaugeman, 10gaugemag, 160user, 1936M71, 10ring1, 12344mag, 62 invisible), 2,394 guests, and 1,163 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums81
Topics1,192,857
Posts18,497,088
Members73,979
Most Online11,491
Jul 7th, 2023


 


Fish & Game Departments | Solunar Tables | Mission Statement | Privacy Policy | Contact Us | DMCA
Hunting | Fishing | Camping | Backpacking | Reloading | Campfire Forums | Gear Shop
Copyright © 2000-2024 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved.



Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5
(Release build 20201027)
Responsive Width:

PHP: 7.3.33 Page Time: 0.145s Queries: 55 (0.018s) Memory: 0.9108 MB (Peak: 1.0273 MB) Data Comp: Zlib Server Time: 2024-05-08 03:17:51 UTC
Valid HTML 5 and Valid CSS