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Man, asking questions in the southeast and reading online.

It's no wonder you never have pics. Just do us all a favor and STFU. It's obvious you don't do schit.


Travis

I'm stayin' JUST FOR YOU ICE! GFY.

Travis lives in Montana, a notoriously windy state with some high elevations. I'd trust, and like to hear his review of the jetboil sol ti. My interest is peaked.

How does it work for you in wind and at elevation?

I've been eyeing these for a bit

I ended up with the SUMO Ti due to my son going with me a lot now.

I've used the Gigas and the alcohol stoves and the wood stoves and Pocket Rocket and the Whisperlite and probably some more and they all had something in common. They were either something I didn't want to [bleep] with because it was cold, wet and I was tired, or they were a bit more unstable than I care for. Also, grabbing the pots required a towel, rag, or pliers.

With the Jetboil you simply boil the water, and grab the pot. I don't know how it boils water as fast as it does, nor do I care. It makes a hot meal muy pronto and it is not heavy.

I have also used it in floored tents with next to zero concern and that is something I can't say for some of the other stoves I've used.

The need for a windscreen appears to be nonexistent at this point and I can tell you if you're using a Windpro style stove you'll find using a windscreen is about as much fun as sticking a fork in your eye when the wind is approaching 30mph.

While I would not consider myself an uber-experienced backpacker I would say that anybody making claims the Windpro "will spank" a Jetboil, obviously has likely never used a Jetboil and certainly has not owned one.

I've used mine at 10,000ish and had zero problems.



Travis

Sure thing, chubs.



Travis

My kid has been joining me as well. Stability is an important thing to me so the part about using it in the tent without worry is a major selling point for me.

Thanks for the review and GFY

If stability and children are involved, avoid alcohol stoves. Cause when you play kick the can with one of those [bleep] it gets pretty exciting.

Happy New Year and GFY.


Travis

My pocket rocket hasn't let me down yet, and I still think it's cooler than [bleep] that I can cook a can of chunky soup whilst tucked in glassing alpine. I'm sure somebody has made a better version of it, but until mine fails, I'll probably keep rolling with what I have.

Using any stove in a floored nylon tent ain't overly bright. That is what they make vestibules for, and also a stove with a lower profile is advantageous in a vestibule to keep the burner away from the sidewall. I would light it outside, in the rain if necessary and bring inside anyway. I use a hammock with a tarp so I just sit my fat azz on my hammock and place my stove on the ground with no worries.

As for alcohol stoves, the Caldera Cone is quite stable, but in 30 mph winds the whole thing could blow over in the wind as it weighs just about nothing. I have yet to see a "kick-proof" stove, alcohol or otherwise. Alcohol stoves work great for shorter trips if you don't actually cook, IE freezer-bag/water boiling is all you do. Two folks need two alcohol stoves. A father-son is better off with a cannister setup.

Whatchew talkin' bout, Willis?

I scored 3 standard deviations above the norm, but I never sat for a test. Didn't take me long enough to sit down.

Sometimes one doesn't have a choice but to boil in the tent TAK. And when you find yourself in those situations, the JetBoil can really shine. But of course when you're in weather that calls for a hammock, you know you're really in some rough country.

And you are correct TAK, there are no kick-proof stoves. However an alcohol stove turns into a ball of flame, where as a Jetboil turns into a can of spilled water.

Hope this helps.


Travis

Don't they use hammocks on Everest?

They work best at or above tree line.



Travis

No, but they do in Surinam. You ever been there Willis?

I'm confused, amazed and thankful .........
How it is that someone who has continually interjected into a lot of threads his proclamation of well above the norm psychometric test results ad nauseam could have spent so much money on so so much gear only to come here of all places and regale me of this extraordinarily vast first hand expertise. What are the freaking odds? I have to be the luckiest dumb schit neophyte there is. Not to be a contrarian and though it may seem counter intuitive, I would also have also thought his initial gear shopping prowess would have also been above the norm as well. I'm only left with 2 conclusions, he's either a Good Samaritan, or full of it.

On an aside, Travis turned me on to the Jetboil awhile back and it's a rocking little bastid for a self contained kit to boil water in. I'm also sporting a titanium 5.4 oz. Emberlit now that goes as a companion stove in my pack on long trips when I want/need to cook or use something different.

Lemme see if I have this one right. I'm a dumbschidt who buys all manner of hiking kit I don't need, but you've just bought a jetboil, on the advice of a novice hiker, and also another spendy Ti stove, "just in case", and you're a smart mofo? Right? Got it.

Never said I was a smart mofo or that you are a dumb schit though you are doing a sporting job of proving the later. I also didn't say that the Emberlit was a "just in case" stove either. Reading comprehension apparently isn't your strong suit is it ?
Like a number of others I'm just getting tired of you telling other people their gear is crap and you have all the answers whilst shining your azz in a hammock and spending most of your days here typing about all your exploits sans the pics.
I wonder how you have managed to find the time to extensively field test such a broad expanse of kit all the while hourly regaling everyone of your vast experience.
You'd best stay in your warm winter clime next to your computer, you wouldn't last long here

TAK,

It is very obvious you do nothing outdoors.



Travis

Nope, but I didn't see any in Iraq. You ever been there, Carlton?