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Have you guys heard of the new 26 Nosler yet? Capable of launching a 129gr ABLR at 3400fps. Beltless case with a capacity listed at 93gr of water.
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Gonna be a 375 Ruger necked down to 6.5...right?
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Don't keep us in suspense.
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Bet it's necked down 375 Ruger.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Thought a 25 would have been a better mouse trap than the 26 but what do I know.....
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Good news for brass hunters though Easy neck up or down if brass is readily available and the 7 LRM is not.... W
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woofer true I guess..we will see. Pretty hot cartridge though,whatever it is...
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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How many before the tube is fried?
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Now with even more aplomb
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Yawn, another "flash in the pan", much like the .338RCM and so many others.
My 26"-.264WM, an original, minty, Mod. 70, in the "P-64-Westerner" version drives a 140 NP at 3250, no strain and can put three under an inch at 300M.
IF, you are cautious as to barrel temps, these old STS, cutrifled tubes will last MUCH longer than most seem to think and still give this performance.
I can certainly see a couple of "wildcats" on the old Newton or "new" Ruger case, but, while a .338" and .308" make sense, I do not see much point in a .264".
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375 Ruger holds 85.5 grains of water
7mm STW holds 92.6 grains of water for a 120 grain bullet.
26 Nosler holds 93 grains of water
Gives a 'rough' idea.
Nosler list their fastest 264 win 130 at 3,166, add 200 fps as Nosler says and were at 3,366, approx.
I love the 26 cals and going beltless but have learned to look at down range impact speed. You only need so much unless your John Burns and killing past 1000 yds.
If you want a flat shooter, just get a 270 Wby, 130's at 3,500.
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I think we'll see more "long range cartridge" introductions in the near future. It's a pretty hot fad right now....
Ruger screwed the pooch with their RCM's. Imagine the marketing potential had they dropped the RCM verbiage and just left it 300 Ruger? They could have introduced a .284 and .264, then targeted the long range crowd. For that matter, they could have made a few changes to the American Rifle (stock, barrel contour, twist) and marketed an affordable long range rifle to the masses. That platform is accurate -- I've seen the RAR shoot little bitty groups.
They would have sold gazillions by now......
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So instead of a short fat it's a medium fat?
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what in real world benefits do you really expect this new cartridge to do better under field conditions hunting game? than what good rifle chambered in a 257 wby, 7mm stw or 300 wby, 340 wby, could provide used in experience skilled hands? I can't see any advantages, unless, your extremely recoil sensitive ,and just want to spend cash on new toys, look if the object, of using the new cartridge is to place a good deal of energy on target down range at over 400 yards I don,t see where an inch or so flatter trajectory is going to change the outcome under field conditions on most hunts with the new caliber vs several of the older established cartridges http://www.hornady.com/ballistics-resource/ballistics-calculatorhttp://www.hornady.com/store/30-Cal-.308-225-GR-BTHP-Match/http://www.hornady.com/store/338-CAL-.338-285-Gr.-A-MAX/http://www.hornady.com/store/6.5mm-.264-140-gr-SST/Id bet you could provide a good deal more impact energy with the 300wby or 340 wby out at 500 yards and still have a fairly decent trajectory with the bullets linked above, and recoil is just not a huge factor for experienced riflemen when your only shooting a few shots
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I don't always venture out into the sub-freezing darkness, but when I do, it is deer hunting season, and I carry a Remington. Stay hungry my friends.
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I see no real world field advantage....but marketing can spin a ton of opinions. It's all about $$$$.
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yep. still, I'm sort of interested to see how it does and what rifles its chambered in.
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I don't see the reasoning in introducing a new product when you have a hard time keeping up with demand on current products, but I suppose the business needs to think ahead.
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I haven't got a "regular" .264 Win. going yet and now somebody wants to sell me a newer one?
Geeeezzs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Bet it's necked down 375 Ruger. Sounds like it has a pop named Jeffery.
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