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I dunno, I think barrel life is a valid consideration if you shoot a lot. Unless Douglas, Shilen, Shaw, Pac-nor etc. are giving 'em away. And I don't know about you, but when I put a rifle together and it's a shooter, I like the feeling of knowing I'm going to get a few thousand rounds out of it without having to start over.
For me it boils down to "how fast do you need" though. I already have a 30-06 length .264 that gets me out to a thousand yards. With (I'd wager) significantly less recoil and longer barrel life. Sometimes less is more.
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You and I are going to agree to disagree.
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You guys think it will be in Nosler rifles only? Or will other manufacturers produce be making them too?
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You and I are going to agree to disagree. Then it's settled.
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I don't need to shoot one, to know I personally don't need one, nor want one. Everyone hunts different, or has different psychological or emotional needs/wants to be met.
Seems that PBR is zeroing POA at 350 yds.....
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They should've zeroed at 450, now that would be an impressive PBR....
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That thing will go thru barrels like I motor thru an all you can eat buffet. 
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Just to play devils advocate, does it really matter if it burns a barrel up in 1,000-1,500 rounds? Say the average hunter will take it out and zero it......thats maybe 10-20 rounds if you have a hard time. From then on it will be shot in the field. If you are lucky lets say 8-10 times a year. And thats assuming that its the only rifle you ever use. We are talking a lifetime of use to get 1,000 rounds. These are not benchrest or target rifles. Also, even if the accuracy degrades somewhat over time, say from 3/4" groups to 1.5" or even 2" groups......that is minute of deer all the live long day. Remember when Weatherby rifles came with a 1.5" guarantee and everyone thought that was just great? It's still plenty good enough.
IMHO this round my do fairly well. Assuming that Nosler chambers it in their Trohy Grade rifle which is fairly affordable at 1600-1700 dollars. Now if they go and chamber it only in their custom line in the 4000-5000 dollar range, it will be a different story.
As far as Nosler being the only one to chamber it, I don't see that as a problem. How long were Weatherby cartridges proprietary? How about Lazzeroni? Lazzeroni doesn't set the woods on fire, but he is still in business.
I can see an entire line of Nosler cartridges.....maybe 33 Nosler, 35 Nosler or even a 25 Nosler.
These are good times to be a rifle nut. Just enjoy it.
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Just to play devils advocate, does it really matter if it burns a barrel up in 1,000-1,500 rounds? Say the average hunter will take it out and zero it......thats maybe 10-20 rounds if you have a hard time. From then on it will be shot in the field. If you are lucky lets say 8-10 times a year. And thats assuming that its the only rifle you ever use. We are talking a lifetime of use to get 1,000 rounds. These are not benchrest or target rifles. Also, even if the accuracy degrades somewhat over time, say from 3/4" groups to 1.5" or even 2" groups......that is minute of deer all the live long day. Remember when Weatherby rifles came with a 1.5" guarantee and everyone thought that was just great? It's still plenty good enough.
IMHO this round my do fairly well. Assuming that Nosler chambers it in their Trohy Grade rifle which is fairly affordable at 1600-1700 dollars. Now if they go and chamber it only in their custom line in the 4000-5000 dollar range, it will be a different story.
As far as Nosler being the only one to chamber it, I don't see that as a problem. How long were Weatherby cartridges proprietary? How about Lazzeroni? Lazzeroni doesn't set the woods on fire, but he is still in business.
I can see an entire line of Nosler cartridges.....maybe 33 Nosler, 35 Nosler or even a 25 Nosler.
These are good times to be a rifle nut. Just enjoy it. If a guy is only shooting 8-10 rounds a year, he would be much better off with a more sedate cartridge. This is because he will not possess the skillset to take advantage of this rounds capabilities, which are really only going to be seen at really long range.
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Just to play devils advocate, does it really matter if it burns a barrel up in 1,000-1,500 rounds? Say the average hunter will take it out and zero it......thats maybe 10-20 rounds if you have a hard time. From then on it will be shot in the field. If you are lucky lets say 8-10 times a year. And thats assuming that its the only rifle you ever use. We are talking a lifetime of use to get 1,000 rounds. These are not benchrest or target rifles. Also, even if the accuracy degrades somewhat over time, say from 3/4" groups to 1.5" or even 2" groups......that is minute of deer all the live long day. Remember when Weatherby rifles came with a 1.5" guarantee and everyone thought that was just great? It's still plenty good enough.
IMHO this round my do fairly well. Assuming that Nosler chambers it in their Trohy Grade rifle which is fairly affordable at 1600-1700 dollars. Now if they go and chamber it only in their custom line in the 4000-5000 dollar range, it will be a different story.
As far as Nosler being the only one to chamber it, I don't see that as a problem. How long were Weatherby cartridges proprietary? How about Lazzeroni? Lazzeroni doesn't set the woods on fire, but he is still in business.
I can see an entire line of Nosler cartridges.....maybe 33 Nosler, 35 Nosler or even a 25 Nosler.
These are good times to be a rifle nut. Just enjoy it. You must be an easterner. 10 rounds a year is not enough to maintain long range shooting skills. If you are only going to shoot your LR rig 10 times a year, you have no business shooting past 300 yards.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
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Just to play devils advocate, does it really matter if it burns a barrel up in 1,000-1,500 rounds? Say the average hunter will take it out and zero it......thats maybe 10-20 rounds if you have a hard time. From then on it will be shot in the field. If you are lucky lets say 8-10 times a year. And thats assuming that its the only rifle you ever use. We are talking a lifetime of use to get 1,000 rounds. These are not benchrest or target rifles. Also, even if the accuracy degrades somewhat over time, say from 3/4" groups to 1.5" or even 2" groups......that is minute of deer all the live long day. Remember when Weatherby rifles came with a 1.5" guarantee and everyone thought that was just great? It's still plenty good enough.
IMHO this round my do fairly well. Assuming that Nosler chambers it in their Trohy Grade rifle which is fairly affordable at 1600-1700 dollars. Now if they go and chamber it only in their custom line in the 4000-5000 dollar range, it will be a different story.
As far as Nosler being the only one to chamber it, I don't see that as a problem. How long were Weatherby cartridges proprietary? How about Lazzeroni? Lazzeroni doesn't set the woods on fire, but he is still in business.
I can see an entire line of Nosler cartridges.....maybe 33 Nosler, 35 Nosler or even a 25 Nosler.
These are good times to be a rifle nut. Just enjoy it. If a guy is only shooting 8-10 rounds a year, he would be much better off with a more sedate cartridge. This is because he will not possess the skillset to take advantage of this rounds capabilities, which are really only going to be seen at really long range. BS, one can shoot something else to practice with.
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Who says those that will buy the rifle are dedicated LR shooters?
I see people in prius's at Home Depot all the time, nothing worth buying at HD will fit in a prius.
People buy things all the time without using it for its intended use.
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Just to play devils advocate, does it really matter if it burns a barrel up in 1,000-1,500 rounds? Say the average hunter will take it out and zero it......thats maybe 10-20 rounds if you have a hard time. From then on it will be shot in the field. If you are lucky lets say 8-10 times a year. And thats assuming that its the only rifle you ever use. We are talking a lifetime of use to get 1,000 rounds. These are not benchrest or target rifles. Also, even if the accuracy degrades somewhat over time, say from 3/4" groups to 1.5" or even 2" groups......that is minute of deer all the live long day. Remember when Weatherby rifles came with a 1.5" guarantee and everyone thought that was just great? It's still plenty good enough.
IMHO this round my do fairly well. Assuming that Nosler chambers it in their Trohy Grade rifle which is fairly affordable at 1600-1700 dollars. Now if they go and chamber it only in their custom line in the 4000-5000 dollar range, it will be a different story.
As far as Nosler being the only one to chamber it, I don't see that as a problem. How long were Weatherby cartridges proprietary? How about Lazzeroni? Lazzeroni doesn't set the woods on fire, but he is still in business.
I can see an entire line of Nosler cartridges.....maybe 33 Nosler, 35 Nosler or even a 25 Nosler.
These are good times to be a rifle nut. Just enjoy it. If a guy is only shooting 8-10 rounds a year, he would be much better off with a more sedate cartridge. This is because he will not possess the skillset to take advantage of this rounds capabilities, which are really only going to be seen at really long range. BS, one can shoot something else to practice with. Good luck getting good dope on 8-10 rounds per year.
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Thanks but it ain't hard in my experience. Once sighted in an verified by my ex-bal program I haven't experienced much of a problem
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Who says those that will buy the rifle are dedicated LR shooters?
I see people in prius's at Home Depot all the time, nothing worth buying at HD will fit in a prius.
People buy things all the time without using it for its intended use.
Exactly most will never shoot past 500 yards if that far and velocity rules for that type of shooting
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Hey, if you're comfortable hunting long range with a rifle you fire 8-10 round a year though, then I don't even know where to begin....
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Just to play devils advocate, does it really matter if it burns a barrel up in 1,000-1,500 rounds? Depends who the intended audience is. If its long-range target shooters then it matters. If its hunters then it matters less, but will they go a 26Nosler over an established 7mmRemMag, or 7mmRUM, or 300WinMag, or 300RUM, or ... A hunter for trophy animals can make do with a barrel burner, but where does a 264cal sit with dedicated trophy animal hunters? Living here in far of Australia, issues to adoption become ammunition and component availability. If the rifles land well before dies, components and good factory ammunition is available ... then kiss it good bye because the enthusiasts/rifle-loonies are vastly out numbered by regular hunters that see little need for something specialised that they cant get ammunition for. Personally, I'll get a floating pilotted reamer for the 26Nosler, but only to run it into a 338cal barrel or a 7mm. The options to rechamber regular barrels are boundless.  Cheers... Con
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Hey, if you're comfortable hunting long range with a rifle you fire 8-10 round a year though, then I don't even know where to begin.... That I am sure of if you didn't comprehend in the first place. Long range for many is between 300 to 500 yards and it don't take hundreds of rounds a month to accomplish
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Hey, if you're comfortable hunting long range with a rifle you fire 8-10 round a year though, then I don't even know where to begin....
Who says those that will buy the rifle are dedicated LR shooters?
I see people in prius's at Home Depot all the time, nothing worth buying at HD will fit in a prius.
People buy things all the time without using it for its intended use.
Exactly most will never shoot past 500 yards if that far and velocity rules for that type of shooting
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Uhhh.....this is the long range hunting forum.
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