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Blaine, I wouldn't argue with your post one iota.

I do note that your HOA consists of 110 lots if I read that correctly, whereas ours is 10 units of a self contained townhouse complex consisting of a series of adjoining two story units and four single story units.

Just like democracy doesn't particularly work well beyond a certain point, same with an HOA. The nice thing about our little group is that if we don't like a particular rule or want to make an exception we all get together and everybody gets to vote on it. Democracy pure and simple.

Like I said, they surely aren't for everybody and I wouldn't want to live under some faceless group of people and their autocratic behavior. Ours only works so well because it's small.





(And also because I'm president of the HOA and rule with an iron fist! I've recently decided to invade the neighboring townhouse complex, but that's another story... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> )

I think a lot of you are blaming the HOA's instead of realizing that it's a few of the people in the neighborhood that are to be "blamed" ... Bottom line is that a properly and reasonably written set of guidelines for a community or neighborhood is a good thing ... it allows for the area to be maintained to a certain level so that it looks "acceptable" at all times, and helps to maintain the property value. It seems to me that in most cases mentioned here, the covenants, regs, and guidelines were poorly written, and there are a few people per neighborhood that have decided to take it upon themselves to police the area to the extreme interpretation of said rules. HOA or no HOA, if the vast majority of the members of the community feel one way about how things should be, it's really not that hard to make the necessary changes so that things are made acceptable to the majority.

As per the lawyer/attorney business ... I'm not one, but my father is, and so are my three younger brothers... I know all I need to know about them, and here's my opinion... They can only do what is allowed by the law ... sure, they can try to find a way to convince a judge (or others) that their interpretation of the laws is the correct one, but the bottom line is that they are bound by the written law and rules ... so again, if the neighborhood restrictions are so poorly written that it's easy for an attorney to make a case that (for example) a rake leaning against your garage at the end of your driveway is a violation, then it's not the attorney's fault ... it's the way the regs are written ... The attorney is merely doing his/her job in representing their "client" as best they can as per their clients direction ...

Just 'cause I'm feeling conversational this morning, let me pose a question.

Does anybody live under city or county zoning ordinances? Do any city, county, state or federal laws apply? If so, then basically you have someone telling you what you can and can't do with your house and property.

As to the fee, yep, if it just went into a black hole that would be a bad thing. But does anyone pay for a lawn service? Pay to have your house painted? That's where our fees went.

Again, no argument with anyone that doesn't like an HOA. And in a place of indidivual homes I can sure see where it would rankle someone. But hey, if you live in a cookie cutter abode anyway (which I give a s*** about since I do all my living inside with my wood floors and fireplace and 12 foot ceiling and built in bookshelves and all that cool stuff). For me, I pay $70 a month and my lawn and shrubs are kept very nice and anything that happens to the exterior of my house or any one else's house is taken care of.

I used to mow about 1/2 acre and at one time had to mow 4 acres and have stood on a two story ladder and scraped and sanded and painted 'til I'm sick of it. At 53 I'm content to let the illegal aliens on the lawn care service do the job...

(about the illegal aliens - that's a joke, son, I say, that's a joke.)

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Anyway, no arguments from me for someone else's choices.

Stetson, small world, my wife is a doc in a family practice group too. The litigious nature of our society has changed the way that medicine has to be practiced. Some states can't keep doctors because of the astronomical rates for malpractice insurance.

Game recipe rustling you say...I'll bet your Yosemite Sam Avatar would have a strong response to that sort of thing<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

jeez I wanna put y 02 in on this topi but y keyboard wont let e <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

its driing e razy <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

i dont are if soeone else wants to lie with an HOA but i ouldnt it would drie e nuts to be ontrolled like that

guess its ool that eeryone has the freedo to hoose

he might even call him a long-eared galoot! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Jim,

I have no problem listening to City or County ordinances, that is Gov't. I do however have a problem with People acting like Nazi's trying to tell me what I can or can't do with a house I payed for.
Here in AZ, the HOA fees go to The HOA board, keeping the pool clean and keeping the common grounds nice. They do nothing for the property the home owners bought. I could see if they had people come and landscape yards and such, but they don't.
In Tucson, people were paying a HOA where the money really was going into a black hole. After many years, i think 10 or 15, people of the community started asking questions about the HOA. Come to find out there is not one and they were paying who knows who x dollars in HOA fees that they don't even know. Kinda funny, but at the same time keeps you on your toes.
The only HOA that does the jobs you mentioned are the Townhouse and condo ones.

Nice conversation Jim, hopefully we'll habe more.

Enrique

You might want to rethink that post. BTW How's your cook book going? Geesh and some folks wonder why lawyers get a bad name.

Wait a minute...I need to get the popcorn... ok go ahead...

Yeah me too. I'm looking forward to this pizzin match because some one has a serious friggen case of alzheimers or is just full of good old doogy doo! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />

City livin' is the closest thing I can think of to what I would imagine prison life to be. I really can't imagine going through life worrying about offending the neighbors. I keep my place looking good because I like to - to hell with what others are doing --- I really don't care! As to the issue at hand, it seems to me whoever is dumping the dog chit in .280's yard ought to have told him to control his mutt first. Can't say I know what the solution to the problem is because I refuse to live in such a situation and therefore have no experience with it. It really is no wonder that city folks are a little tighter wound than those in rural areas - I'd be a wreck.

Hek you ant een pik your own house olor or hae a basketball hoop hange your own oil and on and on just to nae a few of the rules

razy

i ant iagine paying 200000 plus for a flat i ant een hoose the olors on

obiously it works though or they wouldnt eist

this keyboard is driing e nuts

Too much, Bart!

Use enough mower! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

HG,Someone stole your M's...
Bart

She's just typing that way to get attention..............


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....yep. I wuz right. By now, they'd be BEGGING you for mercy.....

You edited this post how many times there Stetson?
You are a foul little man!!!
You called me a [bleep] and a liar for the last time.
Do you understand Stetson?
Bart

Bart--you do root for the Horns don't you??? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> Oh My!!!

lol <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

hush now i a trying like hell to work a free oputer out of this deal <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

i know i a gonna pay for that oent lol but i ouldnt resist

i dont understand the oents about the ookbook whos ookbook and what that has to do with this thread i need to go bak and read

I noticed that this keyboard malfunction occurred shortly after I opined that one of her posts was beginning to remind me of Stick's uh, unique writing style... probably isn't any correlation <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />