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Yep, it's going to kick. What's more, since it's achieving that level of numerical recoil with a lighter bullet and more velocity, it's likely to kick "quicker", more of a jab than a shove.
Anyone who thinks there's two sides to everything hasn't met a M�bius strip.
Here be dragons ...
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This is funny. It offers better performance, that alone will get some people to buy it whether they need it or not.
That's been going on for half a century and ain't likely to stop.
I'm sure the general hunting public is interested in what calibers a few members here think they should be restricted to...
One God is enough for everyone.
And I agree it will have a quick, sharp kick. Guessing it will be similar to my 7WSM with 140 grain pills.
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I'm not so interested in big volume 26's. I want BC to do all the work, not powder.
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Well you're getting both with this one. May not make for a 2000 round barrel, but that's no big deal to me.
This is certainly more worthy than the .30 TC.
That was a joke.
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Czech1022,
Sorry not to put it mildly, but where in the hell did you get 24.93 foot-pounds of recoil out of a .300 Winchester and a 180 at 2900+ fps in an 8-pound rifle?
There are a bunch of recoil formulas out there. I just ran the numbers you provided through Sierra's and the recoil came out to almost 30 foot-pounds. My own recoil formula, which I developed over a decade ago, includes a factor for "rocket effect" that most formulas don't. It comes up with 33 foot-pounds.
Anybody who can't tell the difference between the recoil of a .264 Winchester and .270 Weatherby and 130-grain bullets from a .300 Winchester shooting 180's either hasn't shot any of them much, or is one of those iron-shoulder kick-addicts who profess to love getting the snot beaten out of them by a .458 Lott.
I've shot an 8-pound .270 Weatherby with 130's at 3400+ considerablynd it AIN'T a .300 Winchester Magnum.
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I'm working on a light .300 WM for a friend. Even with 180's, that thing will slap you. I'd rather shoot my .404J. It kicks but doesn't seem to be mad at anyone... DF
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My own recoil formula, which I developed over a decade ago, includes a factor for "rocket effect" that most formulas don't. It comes up with 33 foot-pounds. I always figured that there had to be more to it than just the "weight of the ejecta" that so many writers bandy about.
Last edited by Take_a_knee; 11/25/13. Reason: spelling
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Handloads.com online recoil calculator. I just repeated it with the same results.
Looks like I need to find a better data source!
All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing -- Edmund Burke
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I'd say so!
The 26 Nosler will kick a little more than a .264 Winchester, probably more like a 7mm Remington Magnum with 140-grain bullets. So yes, it will kick more than a .270 Winchester, but it ain't gonna kick like any of the .300 magnums with 180's.
“Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.” John Steinbeck
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Went from "barrel burner" to "kicks too much" and no one shot,seen or owns a 26 Nosler yet,only on the internet.
Life Member SCI Life Member DSC Member New Mexico Shooting Sports Association
Take your responsibilities seriously, never yourself-Ken Howell Proper bullet placement + sufficient penetration = quick, clean kill. Finn Aagard
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You left out that the case neck stretches too much.
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What's the possibility of driving a 130 grain to 3,600? I've seen some chrony results with 257 wby and 115 grain...into the 3680's with RL17. Possible or a pipe dream ?
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What's the possibility of driving a 130 grain to 3,600? I've seen some chrony results with 257 wby and 115 grain...into the 3680's with RL17. Possible or a pipe dream ? 36" barreled 257 Weatherby and 75000 psi?
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I grew up on 6.5's but have wandered away. Like the prodigal son, I just may return.
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And the name stinks, so no one will even buy it.
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Nope, 26" and 69 gr of RL 17 was the claim...
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ndhunterman,only if you AI it. John Moses,I stand corrected.
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What's in a name? I want numbers. Call it a 26 fudrucker for all I care.
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the 260 Nosler would have sounded better in my humble opinion.
When it comes to naming new cartridges, seems like two numbers are in vogue these days.
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