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Maybe they can convince Tikka or Savage to make some to for the rest of us who can't afford $2000+ on a gun. I'm guessing they'd need to sell a lot of rifles before they'd want to encourage a competitor to enter the market and undercut their price. And if they do sell a lot, someone else will chamber these without needing encouragement.
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You don't think this last round of shortages was not the result of politics? You just can't watch CNN and MSNBC and call it news. I don't watch any TV news. And you can't just listen to Sean Hannity and call yourself informed. The only political connection to the shortages was panic buying by people looking to stock up, caused by election results. So in that sense, you could say it was political. But I doubt that's what you meant. I credit Nosler for their willingness to tread out there on the edge of economic success. I guess there will always be those who like to chase the newest, bestest, flattest and hard hittenist cartridge out there. I'll be cheering for you from the sidelines. As far as Nosler treading on the edge of economic success, I'd wager that the 26 could go down in flames and not put a measurable dent in their bottom line. Remember the shortages? People are buying every bullet they make, you can't even find ABLRs in stock. That might be what's behind this new cartridge, they have to invest all that cash somewhere. And "nice try" LOL, but you won't be cheering me on. If you read the thread, you'll see that I've said I won't be buying one, I'm happy in 6.5-06 territory. And my mountain rifle is a Kimber Montana re-barreled to 6.5 WSM.
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You don't think this last round of shortages was not the result of politics? You just can't watch CNN and MSNBC and call it news. I don't watch any TV news. And you can't just listen to Sean Hannity and call yourself informed. The only political connection to the shortages was panic buying by people looking to stock up, caused by election results. So in that sense, you could say it was political. But I doubt that's what you meant. I credit Nosler for their willingness to tread out there on the edge of economic success. I guess there will always be those who like to chase the newest, bestest, flattest and hard hittenist cartridge out there. I'll be cheering for you from the sidelines. As far as Nosler treading on the edge of economic success, I'd wager that the 26 could go down in flames and not put a measurable dent in their bottom line. Remember the shortages? People are buying every bullet they make, you can't even find ABLRs in stock. That might be what's behind this new cartridge, they have to invest all that cash somewhere. And "nice try" LOL, but you won't be cheering me on. If you read the thread, you'll see that I've said I won't be buying one, I'm happy in 6.5-06 territory. And my mountain rifle is a Kimber Montana re-barreled to 6.5 WSM. You really are an obtuse dude! You don't see the link between the election, polictics and school shootings? Equating my statements to Hannity proves you really have no clue. Lastly, I wasn't "cheering YOU on", I coudn't care less!
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I'll be cheering for you from the sidelines. Lastly, I wasn't "cheering YOU on", I coudn't care less! Got it. Thanks for explaining.
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smokepole, The only political connection to the shortages was panic buying by people looking to stock up, caused by election results There is something you may have missed. Maybe the election cause so many more people to think about buying guns. These new buyers don't have a clue about panic buying. They have no idea how good things were for us buyer before this president was elected.
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Ringman, I think you're right in that the election resulted in many first-time gun owners. All I'm saying is that I don't believe that the government or politicians intentionally caused the component shortages. In any case, there's a thread on that particular topic on the Gunwriter's forum: https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbth...date_on_the_22_LR_Conspiracy#Post8279194Back on topic, I think it'll sell. At the very least it'll give people something new to talk about on these forums, there seems to be a shortage lately. I'll be interested to hear what Mule Deer finds out about how easy it is to get it to shoot well with different handloads.
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I've used the Latigo for years. Recently I got a Montana sling and feel it's the best yet. It's super simple and sometimes simple is best.
This sling was developed by Scenarshooter (Pat) and he should know a thing or two about shooting and slings.DF My hat is off to him. It is a GREAT sling. I have about 3-4 of them now and will have one for all the rifles eventually. I have a 1" on my Pre64 338 and 1.25's on my others. If I had to buy again I like the 1" more. Nothing really wrong with 1.25's. Just have gotten used to the 1" on the 338 so I'll buy more in the future. That is good to know, thanks. Do you guys favor one width over the other?
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Any word on the price of the new rifle Nosler is offering?
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If 129's are cooking 3,400 would 3,500-3,550 with a 120 be reasonable?
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That would be about right.
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That would be about right or that is about what you are getting...? If someone was looking to break into the outdoor / gun writing business, how may he get a hold of this cartridge wizardry ?
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here's a simple formula that can figure out about the velocity attainable with other bullet weights in the same round: Add the two bullet weights together, divide by two, then divide that by the new bullet weight. Multiply the result times the velocity of the known load.
This instance it would go:
1) 129+120=249 2) 249/2=124.5 3) 124.5/120=1.0375 4) 1.0375x3400=3527.5
And 3527.5 is 3500-3550 fps.
As for your other question, you could call Nosler and ask for their writer contact, since they have somebody who takes care of writer requests full-time. Then explain to him that you want to borrow a 26 Nosler rifle with some ammo for test-shooting, in order to write an article. To do that, however, you usually need to have a magazine already committed to running the article.
You can also buy the rifle and some ammo and do the testing, then try to interest a magazine in your review.
I've done it both ways, but the second method is more common among people trying to break into the business.
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Thanks for the info on both accounts.
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Neat info there.
So you could expect around 3266 fps with a 140 gr. bullet.
That's moving along.
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Yep, and maybe even 3300 with the right powder.
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I like what I'm hearing. About 100 fps faster than factory 140 loads for a 7 Mag. and doing it without a belt.
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I don't understand the belt hatred... Nothing but love for the 7 mag. Also, RL 17 will get a 140 grain & 7 mag into the 3300 range.. Still very interested in this new 26. Using Johns formula.... 100 grain would be pushing 3,900. 100 gr TTSX = antelopes worst nightmare.
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Yep, and maybe even 3300 with the right powder. So no real increase in performance over the .264 Winchester Magnum...
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I don't understand the belt hatred... Nothing but love for the 7 mag. Also, RL 17 will get a 140 grain & 7 mag into the 3300 range.. Still very interested in this new 26. Using Johns formula.... 100 grain would be pushing 3,900. 100 gr TTSX = antelopes worst nightmare. The held brings nothing of value to the table
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