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I just saw on facebook where Forbes will be fluting the bolts. Lame idea.....it does nothing but provide a path for crap to get into the magazine. I let them know 100% agreed. More gimmicks for bubba...
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I told them I wanted faster twists and a 22" barrels last year soon after they were announced.
My opinions didn't carry any weight with them! They probably knew I'd still buy one anyway...
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They probably knew I'd still buy one a dozen anyway... Fixed it for you.
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They probably knew I'd still buy one a dozen anyway... Fixed it for you.
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They also posted on Facebook that they are raising prices in 2014. Their price point is already 1700-1800 in Canada before the stainless guns. That will probably keep me out of their market.
And call me Bubba. I like that fluting.
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Check out this question and reply from the Forbes facebook page...
Me - Can I order one without the bolt fluting? My experience with bolt fluting is that it is nothing but a path for debris to get into the magazine.
Forbes Rifle LLC - Unfortunately we are only making them fluted now. I can tell you Billy, the flutes on this rifle are very slight. So slight in fact that they didn't even change the weight of the rifle. We decided to flute it from customers requests. For example our AK and Canadian customers needed it so they could clear debris like ice in the winter, and that fine power sand found in TX. for our southern hunters. Also, the fluting on this rifle has the phosphate so it won't wear off and gives you about half of the raw steel exposure than with the old jeweled bolt. I hope this helps your decision to go with Forbes Rifle.
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Check out this question and reply from the Forbes facebook page...
Me - Can I order one without the bolt fluting? My experience with bolt fluting is that it is nothing but a path for debris to get into the magazine.
Forbes Rifle LLC - Unfortunately we are only making them fluted now. I can tell you Billy, the flutes on this rifle are very slight. So slight in fact that they didn't even change the weight of the rifle. We decided to flute it from customers requests. For example our AK and Canadian customers needed it so they could clear debris like ice in the winter, and that fine power sand found in TX. for our southern hunters. Also, the fluting on this rifle has the phosphate so it won't wear off and gives you about half of the raw steel exposure than with the old jeweled bolt. I hope this helps your decision to go with Forbes Rifle. Wow, it just gets worse.
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Mass production is a relative term I guess. One could consider it "mass produced" relative to the NULA's I guess which was the likely goal anyway.
Prairie Goat, the 6.5x55 with the long action, 24" 1:8 twist barrel was the one that caught my eye as well in the current offerings.
I could really care less about the fluted bolt thing, kind of like adding fancy rims to a "work truck". I do care if it drives the price up however. Just makes the CLR with upgrades more appealing for me. Raise the price and the mass production becomes even less likely!
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They're still a good value when one considers you'd most likely spend more money turning a basic production rifle into a semi-custom that will weigh significantly more as well.
Price out a Remington, Winchester or similar and figure out what you'd stick into it with a McMillan, better trigger, glass or pillar bed, action truing, new barrel, cerakote or similar and it becomes obvious.
I realize not everyone gets that done, but even just putting one in a Mickey will cost you close to the same.
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The primary difference being you can get a Mcmillan in the style and LOP you like. With the Forbes, you're stuck with what they give you. I'd like one, but they are way too short for me.
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Yea, but the more they raise the price, the better the Montana looks, not even to mention, fluting, shorter barrels, and no stainless.
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i bet all manufacturers raise their price in 2014 not just forbes
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i bet all manufacturers raise their price in 2014 not just forbes You can count on it.
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The primary difference being you can get a Mcmillan in the style and LOP you like. With the Forbes, you're stuck with what they give you. I'd like one, but they are way too short for me. That is true, and I'm not knockin' the Mickeys as I have a few myself, if you're not of average height/arm length they're probably not the best choice. I'm 5' 10 1/2" w/unusually short arms, so they feel quite good to me. I noticed this year that my trusty M7 mag w/the MCM Mountain Rifle stock w/ the standard LOP is a bit long in the butt section with my hunting clothes on, luckily an easy fix though.
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Yea, but the more they raise the price, the better the Montana looks, not even to mention, fluting, shorter barrels, and no stainless. I'm not huge on fluting either, but I bet Kimber raises their prices this year also, and it's still a lot of desireable features for the money if it fits your stature as prairie goat pointed out.
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To me they are worth a try, sent an email to the company today to reserve a 7mm-08 with stainless barrel. Awaiting a response from Rick.
We will see
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The primary difference being you can get a Mcmillan in the style and LOP you like. With the Forbes, you're stuck with what they give you. I'd like one, but they are way too short for me. Maybe a guy could buy a Forbes, sell off the factory stock and send the barreled action to Melvin for a custom-fit stock without spending a ton of extra coin?
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I called Melvin sometime back and asked. It's a no-go. He doesn't work on them.
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I don't think you'd want to sell the stock...
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