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Rick,
Based on the powder capacity, the 26 Nosler will probably beat the .264 by about 100 fps when both are loaded to the same pressures. But that's just an educated guess based on the relatively skimpy information we have so far. Will know more after getting my hands on one, along with some ammo.
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I don't understand the belt hatred... Nothing but love for the 7 mag. Also, RL 17 will get a 140 grain & 7 mag into the 3300 range.. Still very interested in this new 26. Using Johns formula.... 100 grain would be pushing 3,900. 100 gr TTSX = antelopes worst nightmare. No hatred, but would rather not have one all things being equal. I've owned a 7 magnum for many years. Good rifle. What I don't get is guys looking to push bullets over 3700 fps. Does anyone know how they perform when going mach 5 and hit something? It's interesting, but just wonder if they've been tested at those speeds and were designed for that velocity. Would undoubtedly need to use a mono-metal bullet.
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Agreed on the mono metals. I am guessing you would lose a petal or two..I would run them that fast purely to see what they could do to a coyote. Realistically I would stick with 120 grain and greater in this cartridge.
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Thanks John,
I'll bet the thing really hums with nice full cases of the slowest burning stuff a guy can find.
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Originally Posted By: bugs4 Nosler should have talked to a few 1000 yard BR shooters who have chased their tails with 6.5 x 284's and have the worn out barrels to prove it. You better have a tuner on your barrel if you want to push 140 grain and similar bullets that fast or be prepared to live with a lot of vertical at long range. Curious about the statement above. Anything to that and why would it be difficult? Seems that would depend on the twist and bullet being used.
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I don't understand the belt hatred... Nothing but love for the 7 mag. Also, RL 17 will get a 140 grain & 7 mag into the 3300 range.. Still very interested in this new 26. Using Johns formula.... 100 grain would be pushing 3,900. 100 gr TTSX = antelopes worst nightmare. No hatred, but would rather not have one all things being equal. I've owned a 7 magnum for many years. Good rifle. What I don't get is guys looking to push bullets over 3700 fps. Does anyone know how they perform when going mach 5 and hit something? It's interesting, but just wonder if they've been tested at those speeds and were designed for that velocity. Would undoubtedly need to use a mono-metal bullet. JM, Even with my limited experience using monometals at high speed, I find they can fool you the way they perform on game animals. It'll take lots of trial and error to determine which projectiles are the winners. Nosler is pushing their LRAB and maybe they're building this new offering around that bullet. It would make sense. I can't wait until the Shot Show roll out in Jan, '14. Then, to see how it performs in the real world. DF
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The 129gr .264 LRAB's I tested this fall, fell way short on claimed BC. At least at 3200fps in several 6.5 SAUM rifles we shot it in.
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JohnMoses,
Last season I killed three deer with monometal at 3,919 feet per second average for nine shots when I sighted it in. The bullets are G.S.Custom .257 85HV bullets. These didn't give long range information because they killed deer about one hundred yards, fifty yards and at most twenty yards. The one at one hundred yards I shot in front of the right hip and the exit was about the middle of the left chest. I shot it again in the middle of the chest from the side. I shot the one at fifty yards straight in the front of the chest. The bullet damaged the spine above the pelvis and exited. I shot it again in the middle of the chest also. The twenty yard deer was shot in the head. None of the bullets were recovered.
The first two were bucks the last one a doe. Both bucks lungs were destroyed.
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I've had reports that mirror that on all the LR Accubonds in every caliber.
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The 129gr .264 LRAB's I tested this fall, fell way short on claimed BC. At least at 3200fps in several 6.5 SAUM rifles we shot it in. Pat, could you elaborate on your results a little bit, please?
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The 129gr .264 LRAB's I tested this fall, fell way short on claimed BC. At least at 3200fps in several 6.5 SAUM rifles we shot it in. Pat, Maybe they're making the new 26 Nosler for Scenars, just don't realize that fact quite yet... DF
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If 129's are cooking 3,400 would 3,500-3,550 with a 120 be reasonable? easy.
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New stuff is always cool and fun to play around with. That's reason enough for me.
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New stuff is always cool and fun to play around with. More so when it's in an area of few options. A fast 26 has my attention.
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I think this cartridge will be more of a good thing. Guys on here that shoot the small bore magnums, (one .257 weatherby shooter in particular :D) that have a bunch of experience are really vocal about how well they kill, and i'm inclined to believe them. Most hunters either don't know about or bother with using turrets, and don't shoot game past 500 yards with regularity. The 26 nosler doesn't do anything that isn't already able to be done, but being able to aim at a deer with little to no holdover to 400 yards is pretty cool. I think that's its strongest selling point. Anyway I have an old Interarms action tucked away that was going to become a .264 winchester but, no belt and mo' powder are hard to pass by without a loooong look.
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I think most any modern magnum rifle that is zeroed in at 315 yards should be able to hold on hair at 400, or close to it.
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You can get any cartridge to zero at 315. Depends how high you want to be at 100-200 yds. They're focusing on the guy that wants to be 2" high at 100yd and not worry about hold over/ turrets out to 400. I like it either way. I'm really interested at what price point nosler will be offering the new rifle.
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123 scenar @ 3550 +2.2 @ 100yd, 3068 ft/lb -11.6 @ 450yd, 2,085 ft/lb , 9.1 wind
I like it.
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123 scenar @ 3550 +2.2 @ 100yd, 3068 ft/lb -11.6 @ 450yd, 2,085 ft/lb , 9.1 wind
I like it. That's flat all right!
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If this were a 36 cal I would be interested. Either 358 or 366.
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